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ESPNs David Thorpe Ranks AD Top Rookie
Posted on 3/1/13 at 3:09 am
Posted on 3/1/13 at 3:09 am
LINK
for those of you without insider
He ranks
1) AD
2) Lillard
3) Beal
4) Andrew Nicholson
5) Andre Drummond
6) Dion Waiters
7) MKG
8) BRIAN ROBERTS (I know right?)
9) Tyler Zeller
10) Kyle Singler
...
30) Austin Rivers
heres what he said of Brian Roberts just for fun
for those of you without insider
quote:
1. Anthony Davis, Hornets
Davis has not been setting the world on fire to get to this top spot. He just keeps getting better and smarter and continues to produce efficiently. Studying two aspects of his game in particular -- ball screen action and transition offense -- show that even if he never learns to be a strong low-post scoring option, he's going to be an All-Star.
Davis is used a lot at the pinch-post area and often moves the ball to a guard before stepping toward the guard's defender to set the screen. New Orleans smartly uses Davis in these actions inside the 3-point line often, because he then can screen and roll and get to the rim in an instant. He is doing that with a high success rate, as his highlight-reel dunks suggest. Davis has learned that if he commits to the air immediately after the catch, he can get to the rim without much fear of charging, since a defender can't slide in front of him once he is airborne (without being called for the block).
He also looks so much smoother on his jumper, balanced with good arm extension, making him even harder to account for in these actions.
But as good as he is on ball screens, he's better in transition. In fact, he may be the best "big" transition player in the league after Blake Griffin. He gets out quickly once his team secures the rebound. The key is his first two steps, long and quick, helping him to jump out ahead of his man and get to the rim before his opponent does. He avails himself to lobs and regular passes and putbacks of missed layups.
He ranks
1) AD
2) Lillard
3) Beal
4) Andrew Nicholson
5) Andre Drummond
6) Dion Waiters
7) MKG
8) BRIAN ROBERTS (I know right?)
9) Tyler Zeller
10) Kyle Singler
...
30) Austin Rivers
heres what he said of Brian Roberts just for fun
quote:
8. Brian Roberts, Hornets
If one rookie had to be chosen to do a basketball clinic for college players, it would have to be Roberts. His subject would be: "How to be the primary ball handler in ball screen actions." He is constantly stopping and starting, using and refusing the screen, and using two or even three different screens on a single possession.
Ever probing, Roberts reads the defenders near him but also near the rim, seeing if there is an angle to exploit that will get him to the basket. Absent one, he'll calmly rise up and shoot an open jumper or 3-pointer. He is one of the best in the NBA at this, undoubtedly helped by strong European tutoring the past few years.
This post was edited on 3/1/13 at 3:15 am
Posted on 3/1/13 at 3:21 am to DeionDeion
Very interesting stuff
Roberts is solid, and a guy that I think could stick around for a while after this year as a 5th guard kind of player
ouch
Roberts is solid, and a guy that I think could stick around for a while after this year as a 5th guard kind of player
quote:lol
30) Austin Rivers
ouch
Posted on 3/1/13 at 3:30 am to danman6336
I'm still unsure about how I feel about Roberts sometimes I watch him and say hey that was some good basketball and other times I yell for him to get off the court (i feel like the ladder happens more frequently for me) maybe my view is skewed towards him because he is 27 and thinking well is it worth trying to develop that guy when you have such a young team that needs to gain experience
This post was edited on 3/1/13 at 3:33 am
Posted on 3/1/13 at 7:33 am to DeionDeion
I'd be more forgiving of Roberts if he were used properly. As the primary ball handler he sickens me. Off ball he intrigues me.
Posted on 3/1/13 at 7:47 am to danman6336
quote:
Roberts is solid, and a guy that I think could stick around for a while after this year as a 5th guard kind of player
The amount of minutes Roberts gets seems to suggest he's in their future plans. Unless they are wanting to make sure Rivers sees minutes at SG too, then Mason has played well enough to be getting many of Roberts' minutes.
This post was edited on 3/1/13 at 7:48 am
Posted on 3/1/13 at 7:55 am to Eman5805
quote:
I'd be more forgiving of Roberts if he were used properly. As the primary ball handler he sickens me. Off ball he intrigues me
+1
Posted on 3/1/13 at 9:36 am to DeionDeion
quote:
His subject would be: "How to be the primary ball handler in ball screen actions."
and the clinic would consist of him passing up on screens for 20 seconds and shooting an errant jumper as the shot clock expires.
Posted on 3/1/13 at 9:41 am to Eman5805
quote:
I'd be more forgiving of Roberts if he were used properly
I'd be more forgiving of Roberts if he was around 20 years old as a rookie, but he's 27.
Posted on 3/1/13 at 12:06 pm to danman6336
quote:
30) Austin Rivers
Based on the past month, Rivers has improved vastly and he doesn't deserve to be that low on the list. Prior to the month of Feb he did though.
Posted on 3/1/13 at 1:31 pm to DeionDeion
Thorpe is the best basketball guy that ESPN has and should probably be working for a team, but if he thinks Roberts should be teaching ANYBODY about running screens he's 10000000% wrong.
Notice he never mentioned PASSING in Roberts' screen game.
Notice he never mentioned PASSING in Roberts' screen game.
Posted on 3/1/13 at 1:35 pm to eyeran
Roberts is very good at getting open shots from the pick and roll. Certainly better than expected for a UDFA.
Posted on 3/1/13 at 1:36 pm to tehchampion140
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Notice he never mentioned PASSING in Roberts' screen game.
Posted on 3/1/13 at 2:05 pm to eyeran
quote:
ut if he thinks Roberts should be teaching ANYBODY about running screens he's 10000000% wrong.
Yeah you probably know alot more than he does
Posted on 3/1/13 at 5:06 pm to Eman5805
quote:
I'd be more forgiving of Roberts if he were used properly. As the primary ball handler he sickens me. Off ball he intrigues me.
agreed.
...Davis really is the top rookie. Portland knows it, too.
Lillard is good, but it's a shame he will win rookie of the year because of a pretty good scoring average.
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