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re: Complete Newb Questions

Posted on 2/28/13 at 4:33 pm to
Posted by Atom-Z
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 4:33 pm to
Football league cup mea culpa
Posted by Homespun
Gainesville
Member since Feb 2009
419 posts
Posted on 2/28/13 at 4:59 pm to
Thanks for the additional comments everyone. A couple more questions:

1. What websites do recommend for watching games?

2. What are some of the nastiest rivalries? You know the ones I'm talking...I don't mean health rivalries. I mean nasty.
Posted by BobLoblaw
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2011
2324 posts
Posted on 2/28/13 at 5:07 pm to
I'll answer 1: wiziwig.tv and watchespn.com are great

2: west ham - Millwall
Liverpool - Man U
Inter - AC Milan
Real Madrid - Barca
Roma - Lazio
Boca - River Plate (Argentina)
La galaxy - Chivas USA


There are many others, I'm sure others will be happy to list them.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
28422 posts
Posted on 2/28/13 at 5:10 pm to
www.firstrowsports.eu is my goto one. Atdhe isn't bad if first row isn't working for me.

For rivalries, Tottenham Hotspur/Arsenal is one, ManU/Man City, Marseille/PSG, Shalke/BvB, BvB/Bayern probably, Rangers/Celtic, and internationally Germany/Holland.
Posted by Homespun
Gainesville
Member since Feb 2009
419 posts
Posted on 2/28/13 at 5:20 pm to
Nice! Thanks, cwil and bob.

Looks like Tottenham and Arsenal play this Sunday, so I'll definitely check out that one.

Alright, one last question. I hope I'm not wearing out my welcome.

I realize that Manchester United is up 12 points with about 11 games to go. Seems like a lot of people are saying Manchester City has very, very little chance of catching them. But it seems to me that a lot can happen in 11 games. Is that 12 point lead really that much to make up in 11 games?
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30814 posts
Posted on 2/28/13 at 5:29 pm to
quote:

But it seems to me that a lot can happen in 11 games. Is that 12 point lead really that much to make up in 11 games?


Yes, it's over.
Posted by joey barton
Member since Feb 2011
11468 posts
Posted on 2/28/13 at 5:32 pm to
Without even bothering to look at the fixtures list, Manchester United has only dropped 13 points through 27 games. They play 38. 12 points is an enormous league lead for any large European club.
Posted by thenry712
Zasullia, Ukraine
Member since Nov 2008
15795 posts
Posted on 2/28/13 at 5:42 pm to
There's very little parity between the best teams in European leagues and the worst. In the NFL, a hugely parity driven league, if New England loses to St. Louis in the regular season, it's surprising but not a historically significant upset. If Queen's Park Rangers (worst team in the league) beat Manchester United, it's seen as a monumental victory for QPR. This is largely because, the gulf in class and player salary an between the two teams in so vast.
(Although, QPR has a larger than normal salary for a crappy team.) It would take Manchester United drawing several games to vastly inferior teams, and losing to a few teams around its talent level.

As a counterpoint, MLS is usually a much less predictable league, in part because of a salary cap and playoff system that encourages parity.






This post was edited on 3/1/13 at 10:43 am
Posted by Puddinhead
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2003
4299 posts
Posted on 3/1/13 at 10:40 am to
The reason EPL can't be the SEC is because the teams aren't strong enough compared to the top teams from other leagues.

The reason some people say the EPL is the SEC is because there is more parity in the EPL than other leagues. But the SEC has parity because it has a lot of teams that are best in the country. EPL has parity because most of it's top teams are relatively comparable, it makes for good league play, but it doesn't mean anything.
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30814 posts
Posted on 3/1/13 at 11:03 am to
quote:

The reason some people say the EPL is the SEC is because there is more parity in the EPL than other leagues. But the SEC has parity because it has a lot of teams that are best in the country. EPL has parity because most of it's top teams are relatively comparable, it makes for good league play, but it doesn't mean anything.


Today what you say is true.

For most of the last decade though the EPL's top teams were the best in Europe.
Posted by Puddinhead
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2003
4299 posts
Posted on 3/1/13 at 1:17 pm to
Yea I absolutely agree. But I think the last half decade things have changed. Likely not permanently, but that's how things are atm. Like someone said, these things are cyclical.
Posted by GABlueDog
Marietta, GA
Member since Dec 2008
8045 posts
Posted on 3/2/13 at 2:33 am to
quote:

The reason EPL can't be the SEC is because the teams aren't strong enough compared to the top teams from other leagues.

The reason some people say the EPL is the SEC is because there is more parity in the EPL than other leagues. But the SEC has parity because it has a lot of teams that are best in the country. EPL has parity because most of it's top teams are relatively comparable, it makes for good league play, but it doesn't mean anything.

Um, EPL teams have been in the Champions League Final 7 of the past 8 years and have won 3 of those.

No other league can match that record; not La Liga, not Serie A, not the Bundesliga. Barca has of course won it all three times and been in a class by itself but that speaks more to Barca than it does La Liga.
Posted by Anfield Road
Liverpool Fan
Member since May 2012
1940 posts
Posted on 3/2/13 at 3:09 am to
La Liga = Big East/Pac-12 in late 90s early 00s
Barcelona = Miami/USC in late 90s early 00s.
Posted by Gmorgan4982
Member since May 2005
101750 posts
Posted on 3/2/13 at 7:46 am to
quote:

Is that 12 point lead really that much to make up in 11 games?
Yes. Probably not going to happen for City this year.

Also, since it's opening day and all ... MLS >>>>>>> EPL/La Liga/Bundesliga.
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160104 posts
Posted on 3/2/13 at 8:02 am to
Pep spent his sabbatical in new York so he could scout the MLS for ideas.
Posted by Meursault
Nashville
Member since Sep 2003
25172 posts
Posted on 3/2/13 at 9:24 am to
quote:

MLS >>>>>>> EPL/La Liga/Bundesliga.


Champions of Europe.
Posted by Leauxgan
Brooklyn
Member since Nov 2005
17324 posts
Posted on 3/2/13 at 4:17 pm to
You're first lesson is

VÍVA
MEXICO,
MANG
Posted by thenry712
Zasullia, Ukraine
Member since Nov 2008
15795 posts
Posted on 3/2/13 at 4:27 pm to
I'm liking this faux villain iteration of Leauxgan. We just need an actual Mexicano to buy into the trap.


I'll pick up this pilot for a six episode midseason replacement on NBC.
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
50248 posts
Posted on 3/2/13 at 4:30 pm to
quote:

Um, EPL teams have been in the Champions League Final 7 of the past 8 years and have won 3 of those.
less than 50 percent success rate. Pretty damned shitty.
Posted by NOTORlOUSD
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2010
5051 posts
Posted on 3/2/13 at 5:40 pm to
I think one demonstration of the EPL's superiority is World Cup roster placements. In 2010, it had over 100 players on WC rosters and Italy was second with 75.
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