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Being forced to grat at a restaurant with a small group :-(

Posted on 2/24/13 at 9:46 pm
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69187 posts
Posted on 2/24/13 at 9:46 pm
(TLDR notes at bottom)

I had to take some kids out to eat. I let them pick, and they picked Applebee's. Man I HATE that place, but the girls wanted it.

Anyway. No drinks at all until after the app hit the table. No silverware until after the food came out. (no napkins for the app at all had to take some from the bar) The server was never around. No refills when we ran low. The sides were wrong on two dishes. And she brought the kids deserts out one after the other. You always bring food out together. Especially with two competitive kindergarteners.

So I told a manager our qualms. Wasn't upset at all. I told my g/f that I was going to just give her 15% which is what I give for bad service. 10% for shite service. Being it was bad, but not shite, so she still deserved 15% (Even though she asked me "why don't you look happy) It's not a place you go for great service.


Anyway bill comes..

18% added to the bill.

We only had two adults and two kids. That's two guests, the check said two guests. Why charge me 18%.

I feel for the Preacher who stiffed the server now.
It was the principle of the matter.

Just crappy. I hate being forced to pay a tip. Especially when service was bad.



TLDR people

went to crap chain, got rally bad service, wanted to tip 15% but was forced to tip 18%

Feel its wrong to force one to tip
Posted by TheHardyBadger
Panhandle
Member since Feb 2012
293 posts
Posted on 2/24/13 at 9:47 pm to
Applebee's has rats
Posted by 3rdRowTrashTalker
Drunk between Kirby and the Nat
Member since Aug 2011
1841 posts
Posted on 2/24/13 at 9:47 pm to
Eh - I see what you're saying but how much was 3% more at applebee's really?
Posted by Tigerfan7218
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2010
14251 posts
Posted on 2/24/13 at 9:48 pm to
Should have brought it up with a manager, generally the rule is either 5 or 8, but all the places I've worked at have counted kids except one.
Posted by Navajo61490
Baton rouge
Member since Dec 2011
6717 posts
Posted on 2/24/13 at 9:49 pm to
Applebee's I guess does it bc of the "clientele" that comes in and tries to protect their servers


Eta: bad service blows, sorry
This post was edited on 2/24/13 at 9:51 pm
Posted by Coon
La 56 Southbound
Member since Feb 2005
18492 posts
Posted on 2/24/13 at 9:52 pm to
Mail them the tip in a tampered-with box but really only mail them crumpled up newspapers... WIN!
Posted by southernelite
Dallas
Member since Sep 2009
53177 posts
Posted on 2/24/13 at 9:53 pm to
I'm pretty sure you can ask to have to auto grat taken off if its that bad.
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
56103 posts
Posted on 2/24/13 at 10:03 pm to
so they had a mandatory gratuity for a table of 4?...I can't say I have ever heard of that...
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
19104 posts
Posted on 2/24/13 at 10:49 pm to
The first serving job I ever had in a restaurant was at Applebees. I can tell you that there should not have been a gratuity of 18% added for 2 adults and 2 kids. It's only when there are 8 or more guests that gratuity is added automatically by the computer (the server has to enter in the number of people in a party in order to start a new check). It's also a suggested gratuity, not something you are required to pay. If your service was that bad, and I agree it was bad, you should call up there tomorrow and complain. They will take care of it for you.
Posted by TigerDeBaiter
Member since Dec 2010
10267 posts
Posted on 2/25/13 at 12:36 am to
Isn't gratuity based on pretax total?

I always tip on the total with tax personally, so you probably "proved your point" an didn't even know it.

Ex. $45.87+9%tax= $50 ($10 tip is 20%)

An 18% grat would be $8.26, or 16.5% of the tax total, so at most your griping about 1.5%
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
34048 posts
Posted on 2/25/13 at 12:50 am to
4 people and they added gratuity? That is crap. I do 6 or more and my girls know I will remove it if there are any issues. It is pretty easy to tell the legit issues with the made up ones.

Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20446 posts
Posted on 2/25/13 at 5:45 am to
I wonder how many people notice that on their bill. Maybe that's what they're going for. They're hoping that your average Joe will look at the bill and just pass over that little factor to look at the final price.
Posted by tidalmouse
Whatsamotta U.
Member since Jan 2009
30706 posts
Posted on 2/25/13 at 5:55 am to
Server outside smoking.I'm not an Applebee's fan either.I get what you're saying.It cost you a bad experience and a little money for a "Get Out of Applebee's Dinner" card."Let's go to applebee's."
"No.You remember the bad service we got last time."
So.you got that going for you.
This post was edited on 2/25/13 at 5:57 am
Posted by WB504
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
5874 posts
Posted on 2/25/13 at 7:45 am to
So you complained to the manager before you got the bill?
Sounds like he told the waitress you were gonna short her on the tip, so she hit you with the 18% grat.
Posted by makinskrilla
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jun 2009
9728 posts
Posted on 2/25/13 at 8:00 am to
Dude, if its that big of a deal you don't need to be going out to eat.
Posted by TigersRuleTheEarth
Laffy
Member since Jan 2007
28643 posts
Posted on 2/25/13 at 8:43 am to
18% as oppossed to 15% for 2 adults and 2 kids.

What's that? Maybe an extra $1.5?


I see what you're saying but I wouldn't be mad enough to post about it.
Posted by ForeverLSU02
Albany
Member since Jun 2007
52157 posts
Posted on 2/25/13 at 8:45 am to
quote:

We only had two adults and two kids. That's two guests, the check said two guests. Why charge me 18%.

I feel for the Preacher who stiffed the server now.
It was the principle of the matter.

Just crappy. I hate being forced to pay a tip. Especially when service was bad.
Did you speak to the manager about this?
Posted by KennesawTiger
Your's mom's house
Member since Dec 2006
6994 posts
Posted on 2/25/13 at 9:39 am to
If you're cheap enough to go to Applebees for a birthday, you deserve what you get. (Not saying it was the OP's choice in this case)

Don't know why people are continually surprised when this happens.

Applebee's is the bottom of the barrel as far as chain restaurants.
This post was edited on 2/25/13 at 9:41 am
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