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Fox Mulder 
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| re: Are the Rosenberg executions the biggest miscarriage of justice in post WW2 US (Posted on 2/17/13 at 2:41 pm to CarrolltonTiger)
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They weren't tried for being communist you stupid troll.
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She wasn't a fellow traveller, she was an active communist. A fellow traveller is one sympatheitc who assists but is not a member of the organizaton.
Glad we could clear that up.
And I've read about as much as I can on the case. I don't know why, but I thought most people's understanding of the case went beyond their 5th grade history book. You can name call all you like. No one can say with a straight face that they were not given a sham trial. Seeing as how due process is one of those things that makes flag waving mericans like yourself so proud, I think it's pretty reasonable for you to acknowledge that basically executing someone withou a fair trial is very, should I say, unamerian.
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Rosenberg
But I think I know what the real issue is for you. Catholic much?
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CarrolltonTiger 
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| re: Are the Rosenberg executions the biggest miscarriage of justice in post WW2 US (Posted on 2/17/13 at 2:43 pm to Fox Mulder)
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But I think I know what the real issue is for you. Catholic much?
Rosenberg is also the way you spelled their last name in the subject you dumb shit?
GFY you useless troll.
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Fox Mulder
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| re: Are the Rosenberg executions the biggest miscarriage of justice in post WW2 US (Posted on 2/17/13 at 2:46 pm to Fox Mulder)
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In an interview for a 2001 book by this reporter, “The Brother,” Mr. Greenglass acknowledged that he had lied when he testified that his sister had typed his notes about the bomb — the single most incriminating evidence against her. His allegation emerged months after Mr. Greenglass and his wife testified before the grand jury and only weeks before the 1951 trial.
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Fox Mulder
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| re: Are the Rosenberg executions the biggest miscarriage of justice in post WW2 US (Posted on 2/17/13 at 2:48 pm to CarrolltonTiger)
Oh don't hurt my feelings now. Imagine how you'll feel when I tell you the Catholic Church willingly helped nazi war criminals escape to Argentina and Syria.
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Rosenberg is also the way you spelled their last name in the subject you dumb shit?
I'm Ron Burgundy? Anyway, you missed the entire point. Perhaps you're not an anti-Semite.
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CarrolltonTiger
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| re: Are the Rosenberg executions the biggest miscarriage of justice in post WW2 US (Posted on 2/17/13 at 2:51 pm to Fox Mulder)
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Oh don't hurt my feelings now.
Are you ashamed of your man love?
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Imagine how you'll feel when I tell you the Catholic Church willingly helped nazi war criminals escape to Argentina and Syria.
Why would I care what you post about the Rosenbergs or the Catholic church? Even if I didn't think you are an idiot, it would be of no concern.
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Fox Mulder
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| re: Are the Rosenberg executions the biggest miscarriage of justice in post WW2 US (Posted on 2/17/13 at 2:54 pm to CarrolltonTiger)
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Why would I care what you post about the Rosenbergs or the Catholic church?
 You tell me, you're the one flying off the handle. Perhaps you spend too much time on the poli board.
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CarrolltonTiger
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| re: Are the Rosenberg executions the biggest miscarriage of justice in post WW2 US (Posted on 2/17/13 at 3:00 pm to Fox Mulder)
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You tell me, you're the one flying off the handle
Me! You are the one that made the senseless comment about the Church and Nazi's unrleated to this thread? You are the one that accused me of anti-semitism for spelling their last name the same way you did. I'm simply disagreeing with your dumb load of shite. My thinking you are a useless troll and a serious dumb arse with a man crush of kaare Johnson isn't flying off the handle.
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REG861 
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| re: Are the Rosenberg executions the biggest miscarriage of justice in post WW2 US (Posted on 2/17/13 at 3:01 pm to Fox Mulder)
No, I would put bull shite race-fueled cases throughout the South up there, followed by the West Memphis Three and the Timothy MacDonald cases
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Strannix 
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| re: Are the Rosenberg executions the biggest miscarriage of justice in post WW2 US (Posted on 2/17/13 at 3:07 pm to Fox Mulder)
I hope their executions were extremely grotesque and painful
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CarrolltonTiger
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| re: Are the Rosenberg executions the biggest miscarriage of justice in post WW2 US (Posted on 2/17/13 at 3:11 pm to REG861)
Timothy MacDonald ?
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REG861
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| re: Are the Rosenberg executions the biggest miscarriage of justice in post WW2 US (Posted on 2/17/13 at 3:13 pm to CarrolltonTiger)
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Timothy MacDonald ?
Sorry, Jeffrey MacDonald.
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CarrolltonTiger
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| re: Are the Rosenberg executions the biggest miscarriage of justice in post WW2 US (Posted on 2/17/13 at 3:16 pm to REG861)
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Jeffrey MacDonald.
I don't think there is any reasonable doubt that McDonald was guilty of killing his family. Forensics proved his story was BS. I thought he even confessed to a girlfriend not so long ago.
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ChewyDante
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| re: Are the Rosenberg executions the biggest miscarriage of justice in post WW2 US (Posted on 2/17/13 at 3:23 pm to Fox Mulder)
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Being a communist is not and never has been a capital offense.
Why do you keep repeating this? You are killing your own credibility here with this invalid argument as not one person has indicated nor advocated that being communist is or should be a capital offense.
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VOR 
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| re: Are the Rosenberg executions the biggest miscarriage of justice in post WW2 US (Posted on 2/17/13 at 3:32 pm to CarrolltonTiger)
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a man crush of kaare Johnson
Holy shite. I must have missed something while not spending as much time on the board.
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REG861
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| re: Are the Rosenberg executions the biggest miscarriage of justice in post WW2 US (Posted on 2/17/13 at 3:33 pm to CarrolltonTiger)
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I don't think there is any reasonable doubt that McDonald was guilty of killing his family. Forensics proved his story was BS. I thought he even confessed to a girlfriend not so long ago.
The handling of the case itself was a disaster though. I guess that's a little different than a miscarriage of justice. Should have left him off.
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CarrolltonTiger
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| re: Are the Rosenberg executions the biggest miscarriage of justice in post WW2 US (Posted on 2/17/13 at 3:36 pm to REG861)
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The handling of the case itself was a disaster though. I guess that's a little different than a miscarriage of justice.
If you are talking about the initial CID investigation I agree, but that should generally have helped the defense as would the almost decade between the event and the trial. If you are talking about McDonalds defense, I was unaware of any problems. i think he comes off as an arrogant prick and that probably wasn't great for a jury trial he probably didn't5 generate much empathy or trust.
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redandright
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| re: Are the Rosenberg executions the biggest miscarriage of justice in post WW2 US (Posted on 2/17/13 at 4:28 pm to Fox Mulder)
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We don't have any laws making communism a capital offense.
That's not why they were executed.
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blueboy
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| re: Are the Rosenberg executions the biggest miscarriage of justice in post WW2 US (Posted on 2/17/13 at 4:28 pm to Fox Mulder)
Nice try. Their granddaughter made a documentary after the files were released to the public in the 90's. She herself had to admit that the "new revelations" made them look even more guilty than before.
Their surviving friends pretty much confirmed everything that we already knew.
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Ace Midnight
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| re: Are the Rosenberg executions the biggest miscarriage of justice in post WW2 US (Posted on 2/17/13 at 4:29 pm to Fox Mulder)
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History?
The execution of Julius was unquestionably just, so I can't see why helping the Soviet Union develop nuclear weapons was all that laudable, or not worthy of death.
Ethel - meh - I have some questions, but I would have voted to convict based on the evidence available both then and now. "Beyond a reasonable doubt" is not quite the same as "beyond all doubt".
Next question.
(I bet you don't think the attacks on Hiroshima or Nagasaki were in accordance with international law, do you?)
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redandright
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| re: Are the Rosenberg executions the biggest miscarriage of justice in post WW2 US (Posted on 2/17/13 at 4:30 pm to Jim Rockford)
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Ethel was probably not involved in the espionage
Gonna have to disagree with you on that one. She knew about it, and aided and abetted.
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