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tduecen
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re: Lack of stars in MLB from LSU


I'm stepping out of this thread





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SabanIsAGod
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re: Lack of stars in MLB from LSU


Ole Miss has a bunch in the majors right now.





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bigeztiger
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No, the same question could not be asked for football. LSU has the 3rd highest amount of NFL players behind USC and Cal.


I'm talking about quality not quantity. Talking about stars






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whoisnickdoobs
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I'm talking about quality not quantity. Talking about stars


I don't know man. What school has a lot of stars in any sport?






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bigeztiger
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USC- ohio st - Texas - miami- all have studs in the NFL





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TBoy
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Because college play is not required and the best players are typically drafted out of high school.





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Doc Fenton
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You are a moron.





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SabanIsAGod
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The best arms get drafted by and large but beyond that it is fair game for college ball.





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biglego
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Bc the best players go to the minors instead of college





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SammyTiger
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Brian Wilson is an All Star when healthy. Not too shabby





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LSUsCRYSTALball
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foreigners





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Broham
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The majority of the Top 50 players in MLB never stepped foot on a college campus.

This






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Tiger1242
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I guess the same question could be asked for football too

No it can't






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biglego
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Posted by SammyTiger Brian Wilson is an All Star when healthy. Not too shabby

He's the exception. The typical major leaguer goes from HS to the minors or from another country to the minors






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thunderbird1100
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There are Europeans and some Chinese in the NBA.



To add, Europe would do wonders for basketball over there by creating a "European Union Basketball League" or something close to that. There is PLENTY of talent over in europe, problem is each tiny country has their own pro league so the talent gets so spread out.

In fact, I bet a lot of top high school kids would go play pro in a european league like that for a year on a big 1 year contact vs. playing in college here for 1 year.

Basically have the major cities each have a team...
Berlin
Barcelona
Madrid
Milan
Rome
London
Prague
Paris
Athens
Naples
Lisbon
Warsaw
Budapest
Stockholm
etc....


Would be fricking legit






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thunderbird1100
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I'm talking about quality not quantity. Talking about stars



- Landry, Peterson, Williams are pro bowlers
- Bowe is a great WR
- Dorsey is a very good DT (people only think down because of how high he was drafted)
- Whitworth is as good as they come at LT
- Claiborne is a star in the making
- McClure has started forever at OC
- Ridley had a breakout/standout season


That's a pretty damn good group there






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Doc Fenton
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Dammit, what's wrong with you people? Why do you feel the overriding need to chime in on pg. 3 of a thread with the same shite that gets repeated by everybody and their mother ad nauseum, without having read any of the arguments in the thread itself?

Shit, man. I just laid out the case that what everybody is saying is not really true. There is a pretty even 3-way split among foreigners, U.S. players straight from HS, and U.S. players from college. This doesn't seem to change one bit whether you are talking about the very top talent of MLB, or for MLB players in general. It's roughly 1/3-1/3-1/3 pretty much all the way through.

Why do people have to be such ignorant pricks?

From the 2012 MLB All-Star Rosters ( LINK):

Hitters

Foreign (17): Cano, Beltre, Bautista, Ortiz, Votto, Sandoval, Furcal, Me. Cabrera, Beltran, Mi. Cabrera, A. Cabrera, Andrus, Molina, Ruiz, Altuve, Castro, Gonzalez

Straight from U.S. HS (18): Napoli, Fielder, Jeter, Hamilton, Kemp, Mauer, Konerko, Ad. Jones, Trout, Trumbo, Butler, Wright, Ch. Jones, Desmond, Bruce, Harper, McCutchen, Stanton

From U.S. colleges (10): Granderson, Posey, Uggla, Wieters, Kinsler, Dunn, LaHair, Freese, Bourn, Braun

Pitchers

Foreign (4): Darvish, Hernandez, Rodney, Chapman

Straight from U.S. HS (10): Harrison, Jim Johnson, Peavy, Sabathia, Cain, Gio Gonzalez, Hamels, Hanrahan, Kershaw, Lynn

From U.S. colleges (14): Cook, Nathan, Perez, Price, Sale, Verlander, Weaver, Wilson, Dickey, Kimbrel, Miley, Papelbon, Strasburg, Street


Players who turned down college scholarships to sign pro contracts after negotiations:
Harrison -- NCSU
Peavy -- Auburn
Sabathia -- Hawaii
Hanrahan -- Nebraska
Kershaw -- TAMU
Jeter -- Michigan (actually took fall classes there)
Trout -- ECU
Butler -- UF
Wright -- GT
Holliday -- Oklahoma St.
McCutchen -- UF
Stanton -- SCAL



So hitters: 17/18/10
And pitchers: 4/10/14
TOTAL: 21/28/24



So basically, the same rough 3-way split is seen at the very top as everywhere else.

The foreigners definitely have a huge comparative advantage when it comes to producing the game's best hitters, but the best pitchers still mostly come from college ball.






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Doc Fenton
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The best arms get drafted by and large but beyond that it is fair game for college ball.


LULZ. Well, yeah, I mean, they do get drafted...






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biglego
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Shit, man. I just laid out the case that what everybody is saying is not really true. There is a pretty even 3-way split among foreigners, U.S. players straight from HS, and U.S. players from college. This doesn't seem to change one bit whether you are talking about the very top talent of MLB, or for MLB players in general. It's roughly 1/3-1/3-1/3 pretty much all the way through.

In other words, only about 1/3 of major leaguers play in college. The rest go straight to HS or are foreigners.

That's what we've been telling you. shite man, why do you feel the need to chime in on page three without reading your own argument in the thread itself?

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Why do people have to be such ignorant pricks?

Good question that you should answer.






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Da #1 Stunna
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This is easily answered. Only the best of the very best make it to profession baseballs pinnacle. College baseball is okay, but the league in the Dominican Republic and South America as well as the Minor Leagues has some incredible baseball players as well. Not to mention that many of the mega talented are drafted straight from high school. Many of the stars we see at LSU have to then navigate the Minor League system where there is a backlog of talent. Many quit to get on with their lives rather than run this gauntlet. Minor League baseball is where most college baseball stars dreams go to die.





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