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jcole4lsu
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its obvious now you are just a troll not interested in actual debate. whose alter are you?





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pitsa_bantu
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I think my sarcasm didn't come out well. As much as like to debate people, I also like to get people to agree to disagree. I'm sure we have different political persuasions but we all have a similar goal which is the greater good of the country. So in my sarcasm I was trying(unfortunately not well enough) to get you to see that I'm willing to concede things that don't work on my side and so you can concede things that dont work on your side.





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Taxing Authority
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"Reagan proved deficits don't matter."

- Dick Cheney, 2002
Which was true when he said it. Our deficit was ~$159B, about 1/8 of what it is today and declining year-over-year.



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Taxing Authority
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But it seems to me that you're making a case for Reagan to have a deficit but not for Obama. That's a double standard.
It's not a double standard. They aren't even close in magnitude. It's like a husband buying a new Corvette and saying to his wife "well honey, you didn't complain when I bought that pack of gum the other day".



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pitsa_bantu
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"well honey, you didn't complain when I bought that pack of gum the other day".

Only you would think of a silly analogy. None of the people complaining about the deficit today made the same fuss when Reagan ran up the deficits or when Bush 2 turned a surplus into a deficit. That's the double standard I'm talking about.






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jcole4lsu
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None of the people complaining about the deficit today made the same fuss when Reagan ran up the deficits or when Bush 2 turned a surplus into a deficit.

you make a whole lot of assumptions in EVERY SINGLE POST. I'm too young for the former, but you are insane if you think Bush 2 wasnt crucified on here.






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Taxing Authority
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Only you would think of a silly analogy.
A silly analogy you seem to be unable to grasp.

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None of the people complaining about the deficit today made the same fuss when Reagan ran up the deficits or when Bush 2 turned a surplus into a deficit. That's the double standard I'm talking about.
If you understood that analogy, you'd understand why it isn't a double standard. Dommage. Claiming a $100B deficit is worthy of the same outcry as a $1.2 TRILLION deficit is... well... silly.



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pitsa_bantu
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Why would I want to grasp a silly analogy? That's like trying to convince me that Reagan didn't raise taxes. No matter how many times you say it to your self, it doesn't change the fact.





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Taxing Authority
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Why would I want to grasp a silly analogy? That's like trying to convince me that Reagan didn't raise taxes. No matter how many times you say it to your self, it doesn't change the fact.
You're just trying to change the subject now. Sorry, but you're a pretty poor troll.






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pitsa_bantu
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Reagan's combination of spending and taxes led to the deficits. How is that changing the subject? Stop deflecting.





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jcole4lsu
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That's like trying to convince me that Reagan didn't raise taxes.

we have already established he was a net tax cutter. since its obvious you are not interested in an intellectually honest discussion, we will just chalk you up as another lefty troll.

sad that we find it so difficult to find a decent lefty poster around here. so far and few between these days.






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pitsa_bantu
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we have already established he was a net tax cutter

Net tax cutter doesn't change the fact that he raised taxes. It seems whenever your saint of taxes and false conservatism is pointed out as a hypocrite, you want to avoid talking about him.






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RTR America
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Why would I want to grasp a silly analogy? That's like trying to convince me that Reagan didn't raise taxes. No matter how many times you say it to your self, it doesn't change the fact.


That's like saying Michael Jordan struck out a lot. It is factually correct, but extremely misleading. Not all taxes are the same, just like not all deficits are the same. Reagan lowered the top marginal tax rate from 70 to 28 percent and his tax "raises" were more him closing deductions. You have obviously drank the liberal kool-aid.

Reagan was spending money to end the cold war. Bush 2 brought us out of 2 recessions, was fighting 2 wars, and had unemployment at an all time low. The housing crisis he is blamed for was something he actually fought to try to avoid, but was shut down by a democratic congress. Oh yeah and those Bush Tax Cuts also brought the government record high revenue numbers.

It's incredible the things that get attached to Republican presidents, but are never attached to Democratic presidents.






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jcole4lsu
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troll on, troll. troll on.





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pitsa_bantu
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Come on. You can do better than trolling.





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pitsa_bantu
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Bush Tax Cuts also brought the government record high revenue numbers.

We had deficits immediately following the passage of those tax cuts.
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The housing crisis he is blamed for was something he actually fought to try to avoid, but was shut down by a democratic congress
How many of those years were the democrats incharge of congress? Come on man, get your head out of the sand.






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Taxing Authority
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Reagan's combination of spending and taxes led to the deficits. How is that changing the subject? Stop deflecting.
As jcole has already pointed out, you've been shown that's incorrect in this thread. You've been proven out wrong on multiple things in this thread. And you're either too dumb understand you're wrong (unlikely IMO) or you're just trolling (likely IMO).

But either way, after being proven out you simply return to bumper sticker memes as your basis for arguments. As such you have consistently failed to provide reasoned bases for your blathering. Thus it is unlikely you will learn from us, nor will anyone here learn anything from you. You simply aren't a worthy voice of your side. There are many I disagree with on here, but atleast they can challenge our beliefs and preconceptions. You have not demonstrated such worthiness.






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RTR America
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We had deficits immediately following the passage of those tax cuts


You mean the tax cuts Obama extended? You seem obtuse to the fact that we were in the middle of 2 wars......

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How many of those years were the democrats incharge of congress? Come on man, get your head out of the sand.


The 2 years leading up to the crisis.....

You do know who's idea it was that everyone should own a house?

Look I don't agree with everything W did, but the way his presidency is looked at is incredibly inaccurate.

Let me guess you are not going to address what was said about Reagan because we have gone past what was taught to you by some liberal professor.






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Taxing Authority
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It's incredible the things that get attached to Republican presidents, but are never attached to Democratic presidents.
This. Reagan brought us out of the deepest depression (up until then) since the Great Depression. Obama-ites will tell you that Obama's deficits were necessary to bring us out of the current recession... wouldn't the same "excuse" apply to Reagan if one was being intellectually honest?






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pitsa_bantu
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Thus it is unlikely you will learn from us, nor will anyone here learn anything from you. You simply aren't a worthy voice of your side

Yay! Someone on moral high horse telling someone else how they wont learn from them. hmm sounds a bit self serving. I would love to continue debating but I have a business to run tomorrow. Even though your preconceptions are wrong, you are entitled to them regardless.






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