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stuntman
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re: My friend has started a new non profit. We give guns to people.


What was the UK's gun crime rate before the ban compared to the numbers you just posted?

Comparing their stats to ours is a red herring.






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FT
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re: My friend has started a new non profit. We give guns to people.


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I thought you were a fan of statistics?
I am. A huge fan. But the number of people buying vanilla pudding on Tuesdays wouldn't mean much to me because it's irrelevant.

What actionable information in relation to gun control would those statistics tell us?






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NJ El Tigre
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re: My friend has started a new non profit. We give guns to people.


more guns=equals less gun violence.

i still have yet to understand how this math equation works to some people

there is a reason the US leads the world in gun related deaths. because anybody can go get a gun whenever they want






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MoreOrLes
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Member since Nov 2008
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re: My friend has started a new non profit. We give guns to people.


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I'm sorry.


No your not. Libs never are

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That you've even asked for that tells me that there's just no reason to discuss anything with you on this subject.


Oh your so enlightened

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I know you'll think that you've won because of that, and that's fine.


I won because no gun has ever killed a person or anything else

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It's a lot better than trying to explain things to you that you'll ignore and end up with the same result in four hours after you've caused me to have an aneurism.


One could only hope







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foshizzle
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re: My friend has started a new non profit. We give guns to people.


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The UK has 62.6 million citizens. The US has 313.9 million, so the UK has only about 20% of our population. In 2007, the UK had 41 gun related homicides. The US had 9,146. Clearly, the rate was exponentially higher here


So your point is what exactly? That gun crime is lower in the UK? Because quite frankly I DGAF about crime that is unlikely to affect me and my family.

If gang members want to shoot each other over bad drug deals I very honestly do not care about that, which makes your statistic not particularly relevant.






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FT
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re: My friend has started a new non profit. We give guns to people.


Ok, man. I'll stick with trying to reduce crime. I don't know. Something about that seems like a good call.





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DrTyger
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re: My friend has started a new non profit. We give guns to people.


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there is a reason the US leads the world in gun related deaths.


I wasn't aware the US was El Salvador.

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because anybody can go get a gun whenever they want


Clearly you've never bought a gun.






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NavyLSUAlum
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Portland Oregon
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re: My friend has started a new non profit. We give guns to people.


Gun Ownership and Crimes by Country

The UK has 62.6 million citizens. Switzerland has 7.9 million, so Switzerland has only about 12.6% of the UK's population. In 2007, the UK had 41 gun related homicides. Switzerland had 57. Clearly, the rate was exponentially higher here, but conservatives would, likely, simply argue that crimes were committed with hammers, cars, rolling pins, toilet paper, etc. So we need to, additionally, look at overall homicide rates. In the UK, the homicide rate is 1.2, with total homicides coming in at 722. In Switzerland, it was 1.0 with homicides totaling 79. We've already seen that Switzerland has only 12.6% of the UK's population, so we need to look at, proportionally, how many homicides Switzerland had. Populations being equal, the UK would have had 722 total homicides, to Switzerland's 626.

Switzerland has the 3rd most guns per person in the world. It's obvious that for the UK to lessen it's murder rate it needs to issue guns to it's populace like Switzerland does. Gun obviously keep people from being murdered.

Oh wait. Maybe there are other factors involved. But hey... Reality is unknown to Liberals.






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FT
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re: My friend has started a new non profit. We give guns to people.


Now there's a reasoned argument. Still, here's the question: What's the trend?





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foshizzle
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re: My friend has started a new non profit. We give guns to people.


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Still, here's the question: What's the trend?


In Switzerland? Looking good for gun owners.






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FT
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re: My friend has started a new non profit. We give guns to people.


Worldwide.





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acgeaux129
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re: My friend has started a new non profit. We give guns to people.


You're not very good at this analysis.





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tiger 56
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re: My friend has started a new non profit. We give guns to people.


LINK





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TheJacer
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re: My friend has started a new non profit. We give guns to people.


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Fighting Tiger, which races and neighborhoods are driving those American stats?
Is that relevant?


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I'm sorry. That you've even asked for that tells me that there's just no reason to discuss anything with you on this subject.




You're a clown dude. I believe someone mentioned cherry picking earlier...






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Powerman
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re: My friend has started a new non profit. We give guns to people.


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Will you accept equal blame as well as credit if the guns you give away kill people?


If they kill the people they're supposed to kill, then that's also credit, not blame.






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ScoopAndScore
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re: My friend has started a new non profit. We give guns to people.


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This is for people who aren't going to root for their political "side" the way we root for our Tigers. So leave the rah-rah at the door and come into it with a fresh perspective!

Well said. To me this is the biggest problem we have with politics in this country. Too many people treat it like a sporting event, and therefore defend and root for their "team" no matter what. That doesn't really work so well when the teams are made up of politicians.






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mmcgrath
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re: My friend has started a new non profit. We give guns to people.


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Switzerland


If you want to (or could) change the US gun laws and regs to be EXACTLY like Switzerland. Be sure to include the mandatory militia training and regulations, as well as their laws on gun sales and ownership as well.

Serious question: What records does a private gun seller have to keep in the US? How long?






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deltaland
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re: My friend has started a new non profit. We give guns to people.


Violent crime rate rose dramatically in the UK after they banned guns. But don't let facts get in your way of making a dumb argument.

Plus you can't compare the U.S to the U.K because the U.S is way more culturally diverse than the U.K and that plays a large part in it if you look at the crimes committed by demographics.






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