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TheFolker  Kentucky Fan Member since Aug 2011 1918 posts

| re: W.H.: Rubio response 'could have been delivered by Gov. Romney' (Posted on 2/13/13 at 1:53 pm to ScoopAndScore)
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they'll just say every potential opponent is the same as Mitt Romney, since they already beat him once.
Just like Romney and McCain were Bush.
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ScoopAndScore baton rouge Member since Oct 2008 6904 posts

| re: W.H.: Rubio response 'could have been delivered by Gov. Romney' (Posted on 2/13/13 at 2:00 pm to TheFolker)
Exactly. Just shows how they view their constituents - simple minded. Most people should be insulted by this, but the Dems have learned that it apparently works. Bottom line: we are so fricked it really isn't funny anymore.
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DeltaDoc  LSU Fan The Delta Member since Jan 2008 6192 posts

| re: W.H.: Rubio response 'could have been delivered by Gov. Romney' (Posted on 2/13/13 at 2:03 pm to ScoopAndScore)
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Exactly. Just shows how they view their constituents - simple minded.
Are they wrong? The democrats have mastered the art of getting what they want on the backs of those who vote. Don't hate the players, hate the game.
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TheFolker  Kentucky Fan Member since Aug 2011 1918 posts

| re: W.H.: Rubio response 'could have been delivered by Gov. Romney' (Posted on 2/13/13 at 2:04 pm to DeltaDoc)
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Don't hate the players, hate the game.
It's not a fricking game to people who care about their country.
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DeltaDoc  LSU Fan The Delta Member since Jan 2008 6192 posts

| re: W.H.: Rubio response 'could have been delivered by Gov. Romney' (Posted on 2/13/13 at 2:05 pm to TheFolker)
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It's not a fricking game to people who care about their country.
Oh, it is a game, you just don't realize it. It is a rigged game at that.
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RCDfan1950  LSU Fan United States Member since Feb 2007 6641 posts
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| re: W.H.: Rubio response 'could have been delivered by Gov. Romney' (Posted on 2/13/13 at 2:09 pm to CornDogCologne)
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we. are. so. frickED.
No way, buddy. We'll have to do what most every generation has done, STAND AND FIGHT against tyranncial ideas and governments that would put us under their yoke. You ought to welcome the chance to live a challenging and interesting life, with BIG ISSUES at risk, CD. Watch it happen...the very crash that they are engineering will be their UNDOING. When that Constitution goes...the lies and media-supported mind games...END. It'll hurt; always does. But it'll bring out the best...in the best. Good luck! 
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ScoopAndScore baton rouge Member since Oct 2008 6904 posts

| re: W.H.: Rubio response 'could have been delivered by Gov. Romney' (Posted on 2/13/13 at 2:12 pm to DeltaDoc)
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Are they wrong?
No, obviously not. Did you read the rest of my post? We are fricked because people aren't very smart and don't pay attention.
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ColaTiger  LSU Fan Columbia Member since Jan 2013 865 posts
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| re: W.H.: Rubio response 'could have been delivered by Gov. Romney' (Posted on 2/13/13 at 2:14 pm to RCDfan1950)
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No way, buddy. We'll have to do what most every generation has done, STAND AND FIGHT against tyranncial ideas and governments that would put us under their yoke. You ought to welcome the chance to live a challenging and interesting life, with BIG ISSUES at risk, CD. Watch it happen...the very crash that they are engineering will be their UNDOING. When that Constitution goes...the lies and media-supported mind games...END. It'll hurt; always does. But it'll bring out the best...in the best. Good luck!
Do you have any perception of reality?
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RollTide1987  Alabama Fan Senoia, Georgia Member since Nov 2009 17691 posts

| re: W.H.: Rubio response 'could have been delivered by Gov. Romney' (Posted on 2/13/13 at 2:14 pm to pistolpete23)
Here's the thing, and this is the crux of the matter, Obama has been absolutely brilliant with PR. While his job approval is constantly below 50% he has convinced average, low information voters that the failures of the last four years were brought upon by a divided Congress and had nothing to do with him. Like it or not, this is how he got re-elected. He was also able to paint Romney as a greedy, rich man who could not relate to the American people. Whether you believe that particular analysis probably depends upon your part affiliation.
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ColaTiger  LSU Fan Columbia Member since Jan 2013 865 posts
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| re: W.H.: Rubio response 'could have been delivered by Gov. Romney' (Posted on 2/13/13 at 2:18 pm to RollTide1987)
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He was also able to paint Romney as a greedy, rich man who could not relate to the American people.
I don't know about greedy, but I do think he had trouble relating to us common folk.
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DeltaDoc  LSU Fan The Delta Member since Jan 2008 6192 posts

| re: W.H.: Rubio response 'could have been delivered by Gov. Romney' (Posted on 2/13/13 at 2:23 pm to RollTide1987)
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Here's the thing, and this is the crux of the matter, Obama has been absolutely brilliant with PR. While his job approval is constantly below 50% he has convinced average, low information voters that the failures of the last four years were brought upon by a divided Congress and had nothing to do with him. Like it or not, this is how he got re-elected. He was also able to paint Romney as a greedy, rich man who could not relate to the American people. Whether you believe that particular analysis probably depends upon your part affiliation.
It helps when the network and print media at the established markets support your every action.
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marinebioman  South Alabama Fan Ocean Springs, MS Member since Feb 2005 2247 posts
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| re: W.H.: Rubio response 'could have been delivered by Gov. Romney' (Posted on 2/13/13 at 2:25 pm to RollTide1987)
I missed the SOTU address last night so i read the transcript this morning. Honestly, after reading it I thought to myself how could anybody have a problem with his vision of the country (never mind the practicality of actually doing everything he envisioned). But then I logged on to this messageboard and realized that the hatred that so many people have for this man can never be overcome, regardless of what he says or does. Honest question, if Obama decided today to follow let's say Sen. Ryan's view on how to fix the economy to the T, how many of you would actually praise him for it? I would be willing to bet next to nobody. Instead they would say things like "what took the MF'er so long, this must be a PR move for him to somehow take advantage of, he's still a POS, etc." The bottom line is that the country is NOT as bad off as so many of you claim, it's simply not being run the way you would like it to be.
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RCDfan1950  LSU Fan United States Member since Feb 2007 6641 posts
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| re: W.H.: Rubio response 'could have been delivered by Gov. Romney' (Posted on 2/13/13 at 2:39 pm to ColaTiger)
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Do you have any perception of reality?
A two-headed jackass has a 'perception of reality', CT. I do have the (subjective) perception, that I CHOOSE, CT. Don't run with the pack cause I skeered or lonely, if they ain't going where I want to go. And I make perception-based choices from a well-reasoned and decades long assessment of the possibilities. You might want to check out Stephen Hawking, as of late; and his take on "reality IS subjective". Sky is the limit, dude. Good luck. 
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DeltaDoc  LSU Fan The Delta Member since Jan 2008 6192 posts

| re: W.H.: Rubio response 'could have been delivered by Gov. Romney' (Posted on 2/13/13 at 2:57 pm to marinebioman)
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I missed the SOTU address last night so i read the transcript this morning. Honestly, after reading it I thought to myself how could anybody have a problem with his vision of the country (never mind the practicality of actually doing everything he envisioned). But then I logged on to this messageboard and realized that the hatred that so many people have for this man can never be overcome, regardless of what he says or does.
He proposed something like 29 new government programs...he called for ridiculous gun measures in which statistics don't support his ideas...he went against his own wishes relative to the sequestration issues (total flip flop)...he has shown no true desire to reduce government size, scope or spending. With Obama, like any other politician, you must look at their actions, not their words. Sadly, Obama's actions probably run contrary to his words and promises more than any president in recent memory. He is a walking, talking contradiction in so many ways that it is almost laughable.
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Volvagia  LSU Fan Baton Rouge Member since Mar 2006 37139 posts
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| re: W.H.: Rubio response 'could have been delivered by Gov. Romney' (Posted on 2/13/13 at 3:03 pm to pistolpete23)
I can't wait for another Republican president and the mental gymnastics that would ensue trying to explain why HE doesn't have a mandate of the people.
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pistolpete23  USA Fan In the present Member since Dec 2007 3072 posts

| re: W.H.: Rubio response 'could have been delivered by Gov. Romney' (Posted on 2/13/13 at 3:11 pm to marinebioman)
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The bottom line is that the country is NOT as bad off as so many of you claim, it's simply not being run the way you would like it to be.
17 Trillion in debt 7.9% unemployment 8.5 million out of the work force etc............
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Do you have any perception of reality?
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EA6B  Navy Fan TX Member since Dec 2012 245 posts

| re: W.H.: Rubio response 'could have been delivered by Gov. Romney' (Posted on 2/13/13 at 3:23 pm to JohnnyKilroy)
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For real though, rubies speech sounded like a word for word copy of a Romney stump speech.
When you have the right message why change.
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S.E.C. Crazy  Alabama Fan Alabama Member since Feb 2013 279 posts

| re: W.H.: Rubio response 'could have been delivered by Gov. Romney' (Posted on 2/13/13 at 3:25 pm to pistolpete23)
Good to know. Romney was 10 times the candidate as Obama
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conservativewifeymom Maryland Member since Oct 2012 168 posts

| re: W.H.: Rubio response 'could have been delivered by Gov. Romney' (Posted on 2/13/13 at 6:44 pm to pistolpete23)
Yes, and BO's speech was sooooo original. We only heard it oh, n number of times, during the interminable campaign.
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kingbob  LSU Fan St. Amant, LA Member since Nov 2010 9009 posts

| re: W.H.: Rubio response 'could have been delivered by Gov. Romney' (Posted on 2/13/13 at 7:17 pm to TheFolker)
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Welcome to democracy.
This is why our country was not founded to be a democracy. It was founded to be a republic. A democracy is just the stage where 51% of a people pick who their absolute dictator will be.
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