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You try to make me out to be the dumb one yet you just read how some dude killed two kids after only a couple of beers and yet instead of coming to the logical conclusion that perhaps drinking (even a few) and driving is a bad idea that could kill people, you instead make excuses for this behavior in order to justify your own continued similar practice. That's pathetic.


You still have no idea why he wrecked, but keep on going. You ever get behind the wheel after a glass of wine? Because that's all this kid had. You're full of shite and you're acting like you're on a which hunt. Regardless of all that, there is zero justification for the dad killing the driver, and that was the original point. I'm over this tangent, so argue with someone else.






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I dont agree with any of the outcomes but I have thought about this pretty significantly due to me having kids myself. I dont know if any parent could actually predict how they would react to such a thing. The very thought of seeing something like that would, and in this case did, drive someone into a fury and temporary state of insanity, to execute this person. Was it right? Absolutely not. Can I say I wouldnt have done the same? No, I honestly dont know what I would have done. Its just one of those things you pray never happens to you.





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Actually, that's not a bad idea. I think that anyone doing anything they know can result in the death of someone decides to do it anyway, they are committing murder.



How about the dad that, although knowing that his kids pushing his truck could cause death, decided to do it anyway? Should he be charged with murder for the death of his kids?






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I dont agree with any of the outcomes but I have thought about this pretty significantly due to me having kids myself. I dont know if any parent could actually predict how they would react to such a thing. The very thought of seeing something like that would, and in this case did, drive someone into a fury and temporary state of insanity, to execute this person. Was it right? Absolutely not. Can I say I wouldnt have done the same? No, I honestly dont know what I would have done. Its just one of those things you pray never happens to you.


That's all true, but it doesn't give someone carte blanche to execute someone and not fave consequences. That's my point. This dad should pay for what he did, and what he did was deliberately kill someone and hide the weapon.






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You still have no idea why he wrecked, but keep on going. You ever get behind the wheel after a glass of wine? Because that's all this kid had. You're full of shite and you're acting like you're on a which hunt. Regardless of all that, there is zero justification for the dad killing the driver, and that was the original point. I'm over this tangent, so argue with someone else.


No, I never drink and ride, period. Not even one beer, shot, or glass of wine. As for the dad's actions, until you are a father yourself you cannot fathom what went though that man's mind that night.






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As for the dad's actions, until you are a father yourself you cannot fathom what went though that man's mind that night.


doesn't make it justified.






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doesn't make it justified.


go watch a drunk driver crush two of your children with his car and come back and talk to me about what is and is not justified.






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kudos to those of you who can distinguish between whether or not an action is justifiable in terms of our legal system as opposed to their own morality/emotional justification

to those of you who can't...






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kudos to those of you who can distinguish between whether or not an action is justifiable in terms of our legal system as opposed to their own morality/emotional justification


yes






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Once again, I ask you how often you have a "few beers" and then drive


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As "drunk" as this kid was? All the time.


BTW... I just went back and read the OP, this "Kid's" blood alcohol was twice the legal limit. No big deal to you though I suppose.






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go watch a drunk driver crush two of your children with his car and come back and talk to me about what is and is not justified.


So you think the dad should walk?






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BTW... I just went back and read the OP, this "Kid's" blood alcohol was twice the legal limit. No big deal to you though I suppose.


The limit for him was 0.02, not 0.08. Nice try though.






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So you think the dad should walk?


go back and read my posts. I flat out said that were i in that dad's shoes I'd do the same thing he did but would accept the consequences for my actions.






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The limit for him was 0.02, not 0.08. Nice try though.


I read in the OP that his blood alcohol level was twice the legal limit. Do you make it a habit to drive around twice the legal limit?

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Tests showed Banda's blood alcohol was twice the legal limit when his Chevrolet Malibu rear-ended the Barajas' family's Ford 250 truck that had run out of gas on an unlit county road near Alvin, investigators said. The inebriated driver failed to swerve or even apply his brakes before plowing into the truck and crushing Barajas' sons, David Jr., 12, and Caleb, 11.



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Props on letting the media sensationalize that one aspect of the story for you to where you can't even get facts right. 0.04 is one or two drinks for me, and I weigh 200 pounds.





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The father is just as much to blame for his kids death.


In a purely statistical sense, this would appear to be true, which makes everyone saying that drunk driving is "deliberate" murder while the father telling his kids to push the truck is somehow not deliberate murder makes no sense. The reasoning that a lot of overly emotional people are giving here is quite obviously defective.

Now as to which is worse, the driver killing the kids or the father assassinating the driver, it's impossible to say, really. It's comparing apples to oranges, for one thing, and it's contingent upon a whole lot of details that are very murky at the moment as well.

Clearly, the father shouldn't just go putting a bullet through the head of somebody that has killed two of his kids, especially if one of them is still alive and there is another kid with the wife beside that.

I'm not a father, but it seems extremely bizarre to me that he would be focused on revenge that quickly. That being said, it's also pretty obvious that "heat of the moment" laws that give killers leniency make a good bit of sense. Intent, being wronged, being in the moment... all these things matter.

But the sentiment in this thread that anybody who knowingly raises the risk of another person getting killed in any way whatsoever somehow deserves death is just ridiculous. By that logic, anybody who's driven an unsafe jalopy of a car not up to current safety features should also be executed. It's zero tolerance logic at its most absurd level.






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Props on letting the media sensationalize that one aspect of the story for you to where you can't even get facts right. 0.04 is one or two drinks for me, and I weigh 200 pounds.


Are you a fuking idiot or something? The original post stated this drunk driver had a blood alcohol level that was TWICE THE LEGAL LIMIT. Do you make it a habit to drive twice the legal limit?



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do you know what the legal limit for a minor is?





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In one case, someone intentionally causes harm to a child. In another, someone accidentally causes harm. There's your difference.





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do you know what the legal limit for a minor is?


There is no legal limit for a minor if you want to get technical. I am going by the two links in the OP that state the driver's blood alcohol content was twice the legal limit. I don't care how old you are, if your blood alcohol level is twice the legal limit then you are drunk and do not need to be driving.






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