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re: At what point will the Admins seriously consider a Tech Board?
Posted on 2/12/13 at 2:02 am to CaptainsWafer
Posted on 2/12/13 at 2:02 am to CaptainsWafer
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Why is the OT not the place for these topics?
This question could be posed to any topic of discussion that currently has its own board.
More pertinently, why did music get its own board when it was empirically demonstrated (repeatedly) that there were consistently more tech threads generated on the OT?
Quite simply, the board lineup is completely illogical and is suggestive of a process that seeks not to create the most balanced, sensible offering of message boards, but instead caves to incessant pandering from certain users.
As another user mentioned, the fact that it's 2013 and this site is still bereft of a tech board is embarrassing, particularly when there are dedicated boards to discuss music, fantasy sports, and...soccer.
We've been at this for over a year now...
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This post was edited on 2/12/13 at 2:12 am
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Posted on 2/12/13 at 2:38 am to Cs
A previous post of mine is particularly relevant to this thread, so here it is.
The list of what is considered "off topic" has been diminishing since 2003.
The OT was the second message board to be added to Tigerdroppings, just after the Tiger Rant. And, at the time, it truly was "off topic", since the main topic of the site was LSU sports, and discussion regarding anything else was truly "off topic". Below is what the site looked like in 2002.
Later in 2002, the Ticket Exchange board had opened. (list of boards on the left hand side...)
As shown on the left hand side of the image below, 2003 saw the introduction of the Request board (future Help board), the NFL board (future Saints Talk), and the NCAA 2004 board (future Gaming Board). For the first time, there were dedicated boards for specific subjects other than for LSU sports.
By 2005, the NCAA 2004 board had been expunged. The NFL board was bifurcated into "Saints Talk" and "More Sports Talk" (future Main Sports Board). By May of 2005, we also witnessed the introduction of Political Talk.
In 2006, it became apparent that what was once a site dedicated to discussing LSU sports was evolving into something much more profound. By December of 2006, we saw the implementation of three new boards - Gaming, Fark, and Movie/TV.
The introduction of new boards continued, and by February of 2008, another trio of new boards had been added to the site, which included the Recruiting Board, Money Talk, and Food and Drink.
2009 played witness to the introduction of the SEC Rant, which, by 2012, would develop into a stand alone sister site of TD.
In the summer of 2010, many users were first exposed to the concept of transient, situational boards, of which included the Conference Expansion board and a dedicated forum for discussion on the oil spill. However, two new boards joined the site permanently - the World Cup board (future Soccer board), and the Fantasy Sports Board.
Just three months later, in October of 2010, the Outdoor Board and Hornets board had been implemented.
And in the latter half of 2011, the SEC Recruiting board was introduced.
At the end of 2012, we saw the SECRant branch off and become an independent sister site of TD, part of which included 11 new team specific message boards.
So, what's the point?
It's evident that as early as 2003, the website has been evolving into something more than just a digital locale to discuss LSU sports. There's been a steady introduction of new boards dedicated to certain topics. Instead of a single, nondescript board to host any discussions not pertaining to LSU sports, there has been a slow, methodical installation of topic specific boards to not only offload traffic to the OT, but to foster more fervent, engaging, and specific discussion with respect to a given topic.
This trend will indubitably continue, and a tech board would be a logical, popular, and highly relevant choice going forward.
The list of what is considered "off topic" has been diminishing since 2003.
The OT was the second message board to be added to Tigerdroppings, just after the Tiger Rant. And, at the time, it truly was "off topic", since the main topic of the site was LSU sports, and discussion regarding anything else was truly "off topic". Below is what the site looked like in 2002.
Later in 2002, the Ticket Exchange board had opened. (list of boards on the left hand side...)
As shown on the left hand side of the image below, 2003 saw the introduction of the Request board (future Help board), the NFL board (future Saints Talk), and the NCAA 2004 board (future Gaming Board). For the first time, there were dedicated boards for specific subjects other than for LSU sports.
By 2005, the NCAA 2004 board had been expunged. The NFL board was bifurcated into "Saints Talk" and "More Sports Talk" (future Main Sports Board). By May of 2005, we also witnessed the introduction of Political Talk.
In 2006, it became apparent that what was once a site dedicated to discussing LSU sports was evolving into something much more profound. By December of 2006, we saw the implementation of three new boards - Gaming, Fark, and Movie/TV.
The introduction of new boards continued, and by February of 2008, another trio of new boards had been added to the site, which included the Recruiting Board, Money Talk, and Food and Drink.
2009 played witness to the introduction of the SEC Rant, which, by 2012, would develop into a stand alone sister site of TD.
In the summer of 2010, many users were first exposed to the concept of transient, situational boards, of which included the Conference Expansion board and a dedicated forum for discussion on the oil spill. However, two new boards joined the site permanently - the World Cup board (future Soccer board), and the Fantasy Sports Board.
Just three months later, in October of 2010, the Outdoor Board and Hornets board had been implemented.
And in the latter half of 2011, the SEC Recruiting board was introduced.
At the end of 2012, we saw the SECRant branch off and become an independent sister site of TD, part of which included 11 new team specific message boards.
So, what's the point?
It's evident that as early as 2003, the website has been evolving into something more than just a digital locale to discuss LSU sports. There's been a steady introduction of new boards dedicated to certain topics. Instead of a single, nondescript board to host any discussions not pertaining to LSU sports, there has been a slow, methodical installation of topic specific boards to not only offload traffic to the OT, but to foster more fervent, engaging, and specific discussion with respect to a given topic.
This trend will indubitably continue, and a tech board would be a logical, popular, and highly relevant choice going forward.
Posted on 2/12/13 at 4:33 am to Cs
tl;dr
Posted on 2/12/13 at 8:19 am to bluebarracuda
Golf Board
Posted on 2/12/13 at 8:30 am to Hugo Stiglitz
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Porn board first.
This.
Posted on 2/12/13 at 9:03 am to CaptainsWafer
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Why is the OT not the place for these topics?
Because they get buried under bullshite and there are like 20-25 Tech threads a day, way more than say music ever had.
Posted on 2/12/13 at 9:05 am to LSUTygerFan
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There should be a board where nudity is allowed not punished. I'd visit that board a lot more than a nerd board.
So? Just because you're a perv and apparently don't post from work like well over half the posters here do, does that mean we should do that first when I think most people would want a tech board first?
And while I have sarcastically said I want a Porn board, I was being sarcastic, because trust me when I tell you that you don't want a porn board. Go to 4chan and see how it works over there. Half the porn would not be designed to turn you on, but make you vomit. Trust me that this site would regret the day it made a porn board.
This post was edited on 2/12/13 at 9:07 am
Posted on 2/12/13 at 9:20 am to OMLandshark
How about a Nude Tech Board
Posted on 2/12/13 at 9:51 am to Kafka
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How about a Nude Tech Board
I'm guessing that would involve a Sybian.
Posted on 2/12/13 at 9:52 am to OMLandshark
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quote:
How about a Nude Tech Board
I'm guessing that would involve a Sybian
Or streaking in Ruston
Posted on 2/12/13 at 9:53 am to OMLandshark
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Because they get buried under bullshite and there are like 20-25 Tech threads a day, way more than say music ever had.
If they were that popular, they'd stay at the top of the page.
I haven't read your follow up post, or the two posts Cs made. This was easy enough to answer at a red light.
Posted on 2/12/13 at 10:43 am to CaptainsWafer
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If they were that popular, they'd stay at the top of the page.
This didn't really refute his claim.
There were far more tech threads produced on the OT when compared to music threads, irrespective of length. Yet, somehow, music received a dedicated place of discussion.
Many tech threads do stay at the top of the page. Others, some of which are more technical, fall off the first page bereft of any response. The simple point is that technology has been the most popular single topic on the OT for quite some time.
That's certainly justification for a tech board. There was zero justification for a music board, or most of the other boards that were seemingly introduced on a whim.
This post was edited on 2/12/13 at 10:52 am
Posted on 2/12/13 at 10:54 am to OMLandshark
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Because they get buried under bullshite and there are like 20-25 Tech threads a day, way more than say music ever had.
And it's not only the OT. The Gaming Board frequently has threads regarding PC builds and components. The Movie/TV board will often have threads relating to HDTVs, Roku players, Apple TVs, and so forth.
I simply can't understand why there is so much resistance to the notion of a tech board, especially when the data justifying such a board is substantially stronger than any other board that has been implemented on this site.
This post was edited on 2/12/13 at 10:56 am
Posted on 2/12/13 at 11:06 am to Cs
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This question could be posed to any topic of discussion that currently has its own board.
But there is no board dedicated to tech stuff, that's why I asked. If there was a board for it, I would not have.
quote:
More pertinently, why did music get its own board when it was empirically demonstrated (repeatedly) that there were consistently more tech threads generated on the OT?
Quite simply, the board lineup is completely illogical and is suggestive of a process that seeks not to create the most balanced, sensible offering of message boards, but instead caves to incessant pandering from certain users.
These questions I cannot answer, as I am not in charge. However, I can give an opinion. I would like to have seen the Music Board combined with the Movie/TV Board and Tech stuff added to Gaming. It gives a place for all tech related threads and they would flourish if concentrated on one board. IMO. And the pandering obviously isn't the only factor, or you'd have your beloved board.
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As another user mentioned, the fact that it's 2013 and this site is still bereft of a tech board is embarrassing, particularly when there are dedicated boards to discuss music, fantasy sports, and...soccer.
I'm not a soccer fan, but it is the most popular sport on the planet Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's an unnecessary board. I'm sure you're well aware it was created for the World Cup, which happens to be coming around again in 2014.
Posted on 2/12/13 at 11:10 am to Cs
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There were far more tech threads produced on the OT when compared to music threads, irrespective of length. Yet, somehow, music received a dedicated place of discussion.
Once against I'm not in charge so I can't give you an answer.
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Many tech threads do stay at the top of the page. Others, some of which are more technical, fall off the first page bereft of any response. The simple point is that technology has been the most popular single topic on the OT for quite some time.
I'm on the OT reading throughout the day, a lot more than I should be. In going to disagree with saying its the most popular, based on what I see. It certainly is prevalent, but I'll disagree with most popular.
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There was zero justification for a music board
I'll disagree with this as well.
Posted on 2/12/13 at 11:15 am to Cs
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And it's not only the OT. The Gaming Board frequently has threads regarding PC builds and components. The Movie/TV board will often have threads relating to HDTVs, Roku players, Apple TVs, and so forth.
I simply can't understand why there is so much resistance to the notion of a tech board, especially when the data justifying such a board is substantially stronger than any other board that has been implemented on this site.
I agree, consolidating tech stuff would clear up the M/TV board, and I think doing that would make it easier to add Music to that board.
I'm not against a tech board, I'm just pointing out the other side of the argument. And I will also add that the Outdoor Board had a stronger following than the proposed tech board.
I am against creating boards for every subject and diluting the OT. I know it moves quickly, but if subjects keep getting removed, it will actually end up being a mess if babe threads/WYHI/WOWYHI and IM threads only.
I will still stand by the simple statement that if threads were popular/wanted, they wouldn't be moved off the first page before getting 5 replies.
ETA I am not against the tech board, don't take my replies and counter arguments as such. However, this debate may actually help prove your point. I just enjoy having actual conversations and arguing (for lack of better words) allows that to happen. It's better than posting CSB PIIHB WNH
and other stuff all over the place. This post was edited on 2/12/13 at 11:21 am
Posted on 2/12/13 at 11:20 am to CaptainsWafer
quote:at one point, the mtv board was where you went to have a logical discussion on music. then they started moving the threads to the OT, which sucked because you couldn't carry on a conversation the same way you could on the mtv board.
I would like to have seen the Music Board combined with the Movie/TV Board
Posted on 2/12/13 at 11:21 am to Flair Chops
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then they started moving the threads to the OT, which sucked because you couldn't carry on a conversation the same way you could on the mtv board.
Agreed. See my edit.
Posted on 2/12/13 at 12:36 pm to CaptainsWafer
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I will still stand by the simple statement that if threads were popular/wanted, they wouldn't be moved off the first page before getting 5 replies.
Many of the tech threads consist of multiple pages. However, simply because one slips off the first page with zero replies doesn't mean tech threads as a whole aren't popular, it either means that that particular thread wasn't that popular, or was too technical such that no one replied to it during the ~8 minutes it was on the first page.
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I am against creating boards for every subject and diluting the OT. I know it moves quickly, but if subjects keep getting removed, it will actually end up being a mess if babe threads/WYHI/WOWYHI and IM threads only.
This is a process that has been taking place for the past decade. In 2002, the OT was the only other message board aside from the Tiger Rant, and was thus truly "off topic". If diluting the OT was a concern, then why were sports/outdoors topics given a dedicated board? Or music? Or movies/TV? Or gaming?
Dedicated boards engender more focalized, passionate, and substantive discussions. The OT will always have a place and will always be active, regardless of how many boards are added in the future.
The technology subreddit is one of the largest over on Reddit. The science/technology forum is one of the more popular non-sports forums at TexAgs. Every news publication has a dedicated section for technology. Tech has become enormously pervasive and directly affects everyone on a quotidian basis. Not only that, but we have evidence that technology is a highly popular topic of discussion on this site.
It simply seems that if another board is added to the list (surely, there will be new boards...) that technology would be the next logical choice.
This post was edited on 2/12/13 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 2/12/13 at 12:48 pm to CaptainsWafer
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I would like to have seen the Music Board combined with the Movie/TV Board and Tech stuff added to Gaming. It gives a place for all tech related threads and they would flourish if concentrated on one board. IMO.
I agree. This simply makes sense. The current structure does not.
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And the pandering obviously isn't the only factor, or you'd have your beloved board.
Ah, but I said pandering from certain users. Many of us have not only "pandered" for a tech board, we've presented rational claims. And not once have we even received a response. Those who pleaded for a music board did so without presenting any formal arguments or reasoning...they simply asked repeatedly when they were getting a music board...and eventually it happened.
Chicken even implied that "campaigning" is a clear factor in deciding whether or not a certain board is implemented -
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I want to thank those who have campaigned hard for a Music Board. You finally have your wish.
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