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TN Bhoy  USA Fan Philly Member since Apr 2010 33584 posts

| re: Mexico WC Qualifiers on ESPN (Posted on 1/31/13 at 10:12 pm to tickfawtiger)
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That would be in the eye of the beholder....what HAS been proven is that you sir, are a JACKASS and a real internet tough guy as well, congratulations ! That much, is clear for all to see !

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Vicks Kennel Club  USA Fan In Spielman We Trust Member since Dec 2010 12712 posts

| re: Mexico WC Qualifiers on ESPN (Posted on 1/31/13 at 10:14 pm to tickfawtiger)
I am pretty pissed ESPN picked up those shite stains. I can only hope that Twellman's concussions become contagious when he analyzes that game.
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tickfawtiger  LSU Fan Killian LA Member since Sep 2005 3648 posts

| re: Mexico WC Qualifiers on ESPN (Posted on 1/31/13 at 10:16 pm to Vicks Kennel Club)
This was my point....others don't seem to be able to see the forrest, for all the trees...LOL
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TN Bhoy  USA Fan Philly Member since Apr 2010 33584 posts

| re: Mexico WC Qualifiers on ESPN (Posted on 1/31/13 at 10:17 pm to Vicks Kennel Club)
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. I can only hope that Twellman's concussions become contagious when he analyzes that game.
I think that ESPN will be using the annoying sideline Mexican in place of their English-first team.
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TN Bhoy  USA Fan Philly Member since Apr 2010 33584 posts

| re: Mexico WC Qualifiers on ESPN (Posted on 1/31/13 at 10:18 pm to tickfawtiger)
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forrest
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Keys Open Doors  Duke Fan Member since Dec 2008 19408 posts

| re: Mexico WC Qualifiers on ESPN (Posted on 1/31/13 at 11:33 pm to hendersonshands)
How can Mexico's road games be on ESPN? Wouldn't they be sold off to the highest bidder by Honduras, Costa Rica, etc? Aka BeIn?
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cwil177  LSU Fan Baton Rouge Member since Jun 2011 5520 posts

| re: Mexico WC Qualifiers on ESPN (Posted on 2/1/13 at 12:00 am to Keys Open Doors)
I'm guessing ESPN was the highest bidder for Mex games because they knew they would get the most bang for their buck. For US games, I'm sure ESPN just decided that they weren't going to make that much off of it and so they didn't bother paying over what they felt was market value.
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Sheep  USA Fan Straight Outta Acy Member since Jun 2007 12985 posts

| re: Mexico WC Qualifiers on ESPN (Posted on 2/1/13 at 8:02 am to tickfawtiger)
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Let me see if I understand this correctly.... the next 5 Mex.{home or away} WC qualifiers, will ALL be broadcast via ESPN or ESPN2, while ALL US away qualifiers are on some third rate,hope you can find it,screwed up internet site ?????
I agree with you, bro. I scoured the earth to find an acceptable solution to this dilemma...... ....and then I got DirecTV. Very few people have heard of it. It's a "satellite" that shoots "laser beams" at my "house." And these "laser beams" contain more "soccer" than I can watch. And every NFL game. And is infinitely better than Cox in every way imaginable. And cheaper. Way fricking cheaper. In summation, frick Cox.
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etm512  LSU Fan Madisonville, LA Member since Aug 2005 11440 posts

| re: Mexico WC Qualifiers on ESPN (Posted on 2/1/13 at 8:36 am to Sheep)
Aww christ the rant found the soccer board link. It was a good run, fellas. Pack it up and shut it down.
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gideon Member since Jan 2013 499 posts

| re: Mexico WC Qualifiers on ESPN (Posted on 2/1/13 at 8:38 am to etm512)
change in favorite international football team should be a stipulation for whatever amnesty clause washington comes up with in their latest attempt at immigration reform.
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Gmorgan4982  LSU Fan Hattiesburg, Miss. Member since May 2005 89934 posts

| re: Mexico WC Qualifiers on ESPN (Posted on 2/1/13 at 8:41 am to tickfawtiger)
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NEVER heard of this "network" and I'll bet the majority of cable providers, do not offer it, I know Eatel does not.
I got it. 
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Gmorgan4982  LSU Fan Hattiesburg, Miss. Member since May 2005 89934 posts

| re: Mexico WC Qualifiers on ESPN (Posted on 2/1/13 at 8:45 am to Sheep)
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It's a "satellite" that shoots "laser beams" at my "house." And these "laser beams" contain more "soccer" than I can watch.
Oh please. That's not real.
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Wait For It...  LSU Fan SE Texas Member since Jun 2012 1072 posts

| re: Mexico WC Qualifiers on ESPN (Posted on 2/1/13 at 9:08 am to Sheep)
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frick Cox
Typical SB comment Not sure if the OP knows how TV rights in soccer work, I know I didn't just a few months ago. Until one of America's away games was going to be on PPV. ESPN bought the rights to show the Mexico WCQ games in America. From what I gathered the last few months is that each game you are paying the host country. I ASSuME they didn't pay a ton for the rights to show Mexico games in America. But just know that ESPN did not have to outbid TV stations in Mexico or any other country.
This post was edited on 2/1 at 9:10 am
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WarSlamEagle  Washington Fan Golden State Warriors Fan Member since Sep 2011 12486 posts
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| re: Mexico WC Qualifiers on ESPN (Posted on 2/1/13 at 9:35 am to tickfawtiger)
But YOU GUYS this REALLY is a PROBLEM for SOCCER in america.................we're letting the TERRORISTS control our AWAY QUALIFIERS !!!!!!!!!!1!!1!!!!
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InThroughTheOutDore  Vanderbilt Fan Middle TN Member since Nov 2008 2795 posts

| re: Mexico WC Qualifiers on ESPN (Posted on 2/1/13 at 9:41 am to WarSlamEagle)
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But YOU GUYS this REALLY is a PROBLEM for SOCCER in america.................we're letting the TERRORISTS control our AWAY QUALIFIERS !!!!!!!!!!1!!1!!!!
I blame Beckerman...
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Wait For It...  LSU Fan SE Texas Member since Jun 2012 1072 posts

| re: Mexico WC Qualifiers on ESPN (Posted on 2/1/13 at 9:43 am to WarSlamEagle)
If Al Gore is cool with Terrorist running the network he helped create, why shouldn't we be okay with them running our soccer?
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PTBob  Southern Miss Fan Hattiesburg Member since Nov 2010 1475 posts

| re: Mexico WC Qualifiers on ESPN (Posted on 2/1/13 at 10:42 am to Wait For It...)
The OP's original point that he would've like ESPN to shell out the cash for the home AND away games still stands. I'm sure we can all agree on that. It did not make sense financially and from a business perspective, however, so that didn't happen. Also, if I remember correctly, according to TN Bhoy, thenry knows "ABSOLUTELY NOTHING" about soccer or something like that. So take that for what it's worth.
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cwil177  LSU Fan Baton Rouge Member since Jun 2011 5520 posts

| re: Mexico WC Qualifiers on ESPN (Posted on 2/1/13 at 10:46 am to PTBob)
I, personally, trust/believe everything TNBhoy says.
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Sheep  USA Fan Straight Outta Acy Member since Jun 2007 12985 posts

| re: Mexico WC Qualifiers on ESPN (Posted on 2/1/13 at 10:58 am to Wait For It...)
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From what I gathered the last few months is that each game you are paying the host country.
Yes and no. The host country can do whatever TF they want to with the broadcast rights. The "business sense" thing to do is to sell them to the highest bidder. Traffic Sports bought the rights directly from the individual federations, and (I'm guessing) took the valuable pieces (i.e Mexico and US home and away matches) and sell those to the highest bidders. Univision valued the Spanish language Mexican rights for all matches the most. (I honestly don't know if Uni deals with FMF or Traffic on that.) I assume a similar deal is in place with the US and ESPN. Traffic held the rights to the first US away qualifiers in the last round and distributed them on PPV, presumably to build outrage/demand and drive the price up. BeIN comes in with a large bid for the English and Spanish rights to the US away package to push their new channels. The leftover piece? English language rights to Mexican home matches. Who would want those, right? Amerimexicans probably want the broadcast in Spanish. So.... Who would want those? People who want to see the Mexico home match against the USA. My guess is ESPN bought those on the cheap, which may be good for idiot US "fans" like the OP. TL;DR version: Each fed sells the rights to who they deem fit. ESPN and Univision bought the broadcast rights to the home matches in native language for their respective federations. Traffic approaches the smaller feds, buys their home rights, chops the valuable parts up.... Sells them to the highest bidder, PPVs the rest. BeIN outbids ESPN for the most valuable piece... US away rights. TL;DR summary: frick CONCACAF, frick Mexico, frick Traffic Sports.
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ohiovol  Tennessee Fan Member since Jan 2010 13033 posts

| re: Mexico WC Qualifiers on ESPN (Posted on 2/1/13 at 11:48 am to Sheep)
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Yes and no. The host country can do whatever TF they want to with the broadcast rights. The "business sense" thing to do is to sell them to the highest bidder. Traffic Sports bought the rights directly from the individual federations, and (I'm guessing) took the valuable pieces (i.e Mexico and US home and away matches) and sell those to the highest bidders. Univision valued the Spanish language Mexican rights for all matches the most. (I honestly don't know if Uni deals with FMF or Traffic on that.) I assume a similar deal is in place with the US and ESPN. Traffic held the rights to the first US away qualifiers in the last round and distributed them on PPV, presumably to build outrage/demand and drive the price up. BeIN comes in with a large bid for the English and Spanish rights to the US away package to push their new channels. The leftover piece? English language rights to Mexican home matches. Who would want those, right? Amerimexicans probably want the broadcast in Spanish. So.... Who would want those? People who want to see the Mexico home match against the USA. My guess is ESPN bought those on the cheap, which may be good for idiot US "fans" like the OP. TL;DR version: Each fed sells the rights to who they deem fit. ESPN and Univision bought the broadcast rights to the home matches in native language for their respective federations. Traffic approaches the smaller feds, buys their home rights, chops the valuable parts up.... Sells them to the highest bidder, PPVs the rest. BeIN outbids ESPN for the most valuable piece... US away rights. TL;DR summary: frick CONCACAF, frick Mexico, frick Traffic Sports.
I'm not saying you're wrong, because I have no idea, but this is definitely what I've been telling myself to make myself feel better. I just can't believe that the Mexican national team is more popular than the USA national team within our boarders.
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