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Taxing Authority 
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Houston
Member since Feb 2010
16700 posts
| re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan: Family Of Five making $120K -$20,000/Year (Posted on 1/31/13 at 10:51 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!)
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We need single payer/ UK style system.
Why?
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Taxing Authority
LSU Fan
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
16700 posts
| re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan: Family Of Five making $120K -$20,000/Year (Posted on 1/31/13 at 10:52 pm to Interception)
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Obamacare comes straight from the conservative think tank Heritage Foundation.
False. The individual mandate was considered in a single working paper. That's it. Obamacare is >2,000 pages. Please show us the HF plan of similar scope. HINT: It doesn't exist.
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Taxing Authority
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Houston
Member since Feb 2010
16700 posts
| re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan: Family Of Five making $120K -$20,000/Year (Posted on 1/31/13 at 10:55 pm to deltaland)
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This is what will happen. You'll see a huge black market of surgeons, doctors, and prescription drugs for cash only start to grow.
I have no doubt that treating Government-funded patients will become a condition of licensure.
Doctors FUUUUUUKKKKKED.
Patients FUUUUUUKKKKKED.
Who's STAAAAACKED?
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wegotdatwood 
Arkansas Fan
Member since Aug 2009
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| re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan: Family Of Five making $120K -$20,000/Year (Posted on 1/31/13 at 10:55 pm to Taxing Authority)
So, if you currently pay for insurance, you'll be fined for not getting on an Obamacare plan?
FWIW, I'm on tricare reserve select (national guard insurance.)
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Taxing Authority
LSU Fan
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
16700 posts
| re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan: Family Of Five making $120K -$20,000/Year (Posted on 1/31/13 at 10:56 pm to miketiger)
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Or would you be able to go out and buy the insurance?
You go buy "insurance". (though it really isn't insurance). There is a limit on max premiums and you can't be turned down for PECs. I have no idea why anyone would choose to buy insurance after 2014.
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wickowick
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Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
12745 posts
| re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan: Family Of Five making $120K -$20,000/Year (Posted on 1/31/13 at 10:59 pm to Taxing Authority)
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I have no idea why anyone would choose to buy insurance after 2014.
This, pick it up on the way to the ER...
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Taxing Authority
LSU Fan
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
16700 posts
| re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan: Family Of Five making $120K -$20,000/Year (Posted on 1/31/13 at 10:59 pm to wegotdatwood)
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So, if you currently pay for insurance, you'll be fined for not getting on an Obamacare plan?
No. You can have a private plan, as long as it meets the requirements of Obamacare.
For example if you're a man, you still have to purchase coverage for mammograms and baby delivery. Seems fair.
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wegotdatwood
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| re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan: Family Of Five making $120K -$20,000/Year (Posted on 1/31/13 at 11:02 pm to Taxing Authority)
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as long as it meets the requirements of Obamacare.
and those are?
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Taxing Authority
LSU Fan
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
16700 posts
| re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan: Family Of Five making $120K -$20,000/Year (Posted on 1/31/13 at 11:06 pm to wegotdatwood)
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and those are?
You'll have to look them up. I don't know them offhand. The bill is only 2,400 pages or so...
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wegotdatwood
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| re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan: Family Of Five making $120K -$20,000/Year (Posted on 1/31/13 at 11:08 pm to Taxing Authority)
He's the worst president of all time.
I'm looking forward to all the scum who voted for him to feel the pain.
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pr0jektblack
LSU Fan
Member since Oct 2011
499 posts
| re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan: Family Of Five making $120K -$20,000/Year (Posted on 1/31/13 at 11:37 pm to wegotdatwood)
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He's the worst president of all time.
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matthew25 
Ole Miss Fan
Member since Jun 2012
1506 posts
| re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan: Family Of Five making $120K -$20,000/Year (Posted on 2/1/13 at 12:04 am to pr0jektblack)
So, you pay $20,000 for insurance if you make $120,000.
Do they have examples at $100,000, or $80,000, or even $50,000?
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lsu1980
LSU Fan
Member since Feb 2007
1894 posts
| re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan: Family Of Five making $120K -$20,000/Year (Posted on 2/1/13 at 12:07 am to matthew25)
Try this calculator LINK /
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Nuts4LSU
LSU Fan
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
17615 posts
| re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan: Family Of Five making $120K -$20,000/Year (Posted on 2/1/13 at 12:19 am to Rickety Cricket)
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I can't wait for this shite to hit the Obama voters right in the bank account.
What I love is that opponents of Obamacare campaigned against it on the grounds that insurance was affordable and the uninsured were voluntarily so, and now that it's coming, they campaign against it because insurance costs too much.
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stampman
LSU Fan
Member since Oct 2006
1832 posts
| re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan: Family Of Five making $120K -$20,000/Year (Posted on 2/1/13 at 12:57 am to wegotdatwood)
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He's the worst president of all time.
I'm looking forward to all the scum who voted for him to feel the pain.
Before this guy is finished destroying America as we have known it, there will be some serious finger pointing at the liberals who are responsible for blindly supporting one of the most unqualified President of all times!  He was elected for one reason alone and we all know it.
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imjustafatkid 
Alabama Fan
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
1150 posts
| re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan: Family Of Five making $120K -$20,000/Year (Posted on 2/1/13 at 1:16 am to Nuts4LSU)
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What I love is that opponents of Obamacare campaigned against it on the grounds that insurance was affordable and the uninsured were voluntarily so, and now that it's coming, they campaign against it because insurance costs too much.
Not sure if serious.
You do realize the insurance rates are going up because of Obamacare, right?
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Grizzly 
Southern Cal Fan
Member since Oct 2012
1776 posts
| re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan: Family Of Five making $120K -$20,000/Year (Posted on 2/1/13 at 3:56 am to CajunAngele)
Here's a kicker for you. a single person at first would only be fined 90-99.00 or something low like that. However, they get sick or need surgery they go get a plan (because there is no pre-existing penalties). Once that person recovers they leave the health plan and go back to paying the fine.
Who gets stuck paying for the losses of the health plan? The other insured in higher premiums, copays, etc. Folks it is designed to fail so the next step is for the government to swoop in and implement a single payor socialist health plan. Welcome to the failed policies of Europe folks. FORWARD!!!
This post was edited on 2/1 at 3:58 am
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Grizzly
Southern Cal Fan
Member since Oct 2012
1776 posts
| re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan: Family Of Five making $120K -$20,000/Year (Posted on 2/1/13 at 4:02 am to Lsuhoohoo)
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You and I both know damn well that they won't end up paying for it. Obama and his cronies will make some type of exemption
There are many exemptions already built in. I do not know what they are.
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TigerTattle
LSU Fan
Out of Town
Member since Sep 2007
3923 posts
| re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan: Family Of Five making $120K -$20,000/Year (Posted on 2/1/13 at 6:37 am to CajunAngele)
For those wondering about required coverage, this is what you've gotta have in your plan (whether you need it or not):
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Minimum Benefits Required by ObamaCare for Plans Sold on the Exchange
All plans sold on, and off the ObamaCare Health Insurance Exchange, must include:
1. Ambulatory patient services
2. Emergency services
3. Hospitalization
4. Maternity and newborn care
5. Mental health and substance use disorder services, including behavioral health treatment
6. Prescription drugs
7. Rehabilitative and habilitative services and devices
8. Laboratory services
9. Preventive and wellness services and chronic disease management
10. Pediatric services, including oral and vision care
So they've got old folks paying for maternity care and pediatric services. They've got young folk paying for geriatric services. They've got everyone paying for fat people, alcoholics and drug abusers. No one can opt out of any of this.
The fine for no insurance is to be deducted from tax refunds, but the 47% of the adult population who pay no income taxes won't be affected. For those who have kids or relatives under 19 they support, it'll be taken from the free money (refundable credits like EITC and Child Tax Credit)---unless they are deemed exempt, which I totally expect since their AGI must be below a certain level in order to get the refundable credits.
From what I've read, the difference between the plans isn't in what must be covered under the plan, but in the amount of coverage --- something like Platinum 95%, Gold 90%, Silver 80%, Bronze 70%. Somebody correct that if it's wrong.
Taxpayer is screwed unless very rich or blessed with a bunch of deductions to bring their gross income down.
We're an older couple. I've been paying for health insurance since I was 19. Under Obamacare, our premiums can (and probably will) go up by $300/mo, $3600/yr unless we opt for bronze or silver.
This post was edited on 2/1 at 6:40 am
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Jbird 
Iowa Fan
Odramaville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
4864 posts
| re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan: Family Of Five making $120K -$20,000/Year (Posted on 2/1/13 at 6:59 am to CajunAngele)
Forward beotches forward! Some of the biggest Odrama corkgobblers seem to be eerily silent in this thread, odd. 
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