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re: Lawson reasoning for being asked to grey-shirt: ESPN

Posted on 1/31/13 at 12:49 pm to
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 1/31/13 at 12:49 pm to
It still amazes me that people are trying to give LSU shite about this when it's the kid who didn't put forth any effort in the classroom for 2 years that caused the issue.
Posted by TedStickles
Member since Feb 2008
1458 posts
Posted on 1/31/13 at 12:53 pm to
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Whats the big deal with greyshirting, other than paying your own way for at least ONE semester?


Who's to say LSU doesn't screw him in the spring like they did a week before NSD?
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56342 posts
Posted on 1/31/13 at 12:55 pm to
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It still amazes me that people are trying to give LSU shite about this when it's the kid who didn't put forth any effort in the classroom for 2 years that caused the issue.



...plus, apparently we are talking about him taking online courses to make up credits. I would think any reasonable person would admit that the clearinghouse may scrutinize that a little bit more than normal.
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
60246 posts
Posted on 1/31/13 at 1:01 pm to
Hmmm...interesting timing with grey shirt offers vs full ride offers floating around at the moment...
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 1/31/13 at 1:11 pm to
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When a kid's eligibility relies on several online courses he took to make up missing/failed credits, I'd say that is plenty enough standing for any school to reconsider the risk/reward of offering him a scholarship for the current year.


Wow, Les Miles and his staff really suck at recruiting. Are you telling me that LSU had no idea of this kid's academic standing last March? Are you telling me that LSU has not looked at his transcript since OFFERING HIM A SCHOLARSHIP? The kid takes his official visit with his family on Jan. 26th, and everything is good to go. Then on Jan. 28th the LSU coaching staff suddenly questions a course taken 7 months ago?
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 1/31/13 at 1:13 pm to
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Who's to say LSU doesn't screw him in the spring like they did a week before NSD?




Uhhhh....ok Name one person that you know of that happening to? Anyone at any college will do.

I'm saying I know LSU doesn't have a history of that and of all things LEs Miles wouldn't be on board with that. They would just pull his offer now, completely. Large schools like LSU don't greyshirt someone just to put off screwing them!
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 1/31/13 at 1:16 pm to
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Then on Jan. 28th the LSU coaching staff suddenly questions a course taken 7 months ago?


ITS STILL NOT CLEARED UP!!!

Yes, I know you "think" it will be because of past history with similar courses, but the fact is today you CANNOT say he is cleared.

It does suck, but it is the facts.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
61745 posts
Posted on 1/31/13 at 1:23 pm to
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ITS STILL NOT CLEARED UP!!!

Yes, I know you "think" it will be because of past history with similar courses, but the fact is today you CANNOT say he is cleared.

It does suck, but it is the facts.



And this just became news to the LSU staff this week? The kid has rejected every phone or in-person interview with other schools since March.

What would you say if I told you that LSU guided him on what courses to take last summer?
Posted by kwtiger70
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
828 posts
Posted on 1/31/13 at 1:52 pm to
Even if LSU guided him on the courses, my understanding is he didnt do well on them, i think this may be the third time he is trying to retake this course. As the semester goes on, it would become apparent he is not doing any better than before. The new SEC signing rules really penalize both players and schools who sign someone who is not a qualifier. Once they sign, if they dont qualify, that slot is gone for that year. It s unfortunate but its very important to take care of your schoolwork as well as your football work. I hope the young man can get his grades up, but not much time is left.
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 1/31/13 at 1:56 pm to
I would say GREAT! But the issue is ongoing. Things in life arent perfect. He is learning this now. It sucks, but in the end he gets to ball at LSU byy overcoming adversity. The staff knows what it is doing. I have no clue to why this is ongoing and happening to him. Life isnt always fair, but it rewards hard work. Tell him to stay strong in his classw ork, get there for summer classes so there is no slacking off, and make it to Jan and get your scholly to be a Tiger!!!
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
61745 posts
Posted on 1/31/13 at 1:57 pm to
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Even if LSU guided him on the courses, my understanding is he didnt do well on them


You'd be wrong.


But just keep believing the spin coming from the LSU office that doesn't want to admit that they cut a kid a few days before signing day.

Just remember, Mathieu, Ware, and Simon were never suspended for a game, just held from play. Remember that we expect Jarrett Lee to play a vital role in the offense in the national title game. Remember that we expect to see Russell Shepard be more involved in the offense next week. We also plan on being more versatile in the passing game with Mettenberger at quarterback.
Posted by beardedzeus
NOLA
Member since Mar 2006
4474 posts
Posted on 1/31/13 at 2:00 pm to
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Wow, Les Miles and his staff really suck at recruiting


Somebody is off his meds.
U can criticize les and co for many things (most of which are related to the offense) but recruiting isnt one of them
This post was edited on 1/31/13 at 2:03 pm
Posted by EarthwormJim
Member since Dec 2005
10063 posts
Posted on 1/31/13 at 2:01 pm to
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You'd be wrong.


But just keep believing the spin coming from the LSU office that doesn't want to admit that they cut a kid a few days before signing day.


So what's the reason for LSU cutting him loose then?

Why are they offering him a grey shirt?
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70067 posts
Posted on 1/31/13 at 2:02 pm to
Just remember that if the kid put forth any effort at all in the classroom before the second half of his junior year, he wouldn't be in this situation.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
61745 posts
Posted on 1/31/13 at 2:02 pm to
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Tell him to stay strong in his classw ork, get there for summer classes so there is no slacking off, and make it to Jan and get your scholly to be a Tiger!!!


Wow, that's great advice. You would think that Les Miles or Brick Haley would tell him that, right?
Posted by redfieldk717
Alec Box
Member since Oct 2011
28117 posts
Posted on 1/31/13 at 2:04 pm to
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Wow, that's great advice. You would think that Les Miles or Brick Haley would tell him that, right?



im sure they told him to not give a frick and slack off
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
61745 posts
Posted on 1/31/13 at 2:10 pm to
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im sure they told him to not give a frick and slack off


You probably would have thought that someone from LSU would have contacted the kid to discuss the grey shirt, right? In person, a phone call, something, right?
Posted by redfieldk717
Alec Box
Member since Oct 2011
28117 posts
Posted on 1/31/13 at 2:14 pm to
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You probably would have thought that someone from LSU would have contacted the kid to discuss the grey shirt, right? In person, a phone call, something, right?


did they not contact him to inform him of his grey shirt?
Posted by redfieldk717
Alec Box
Member since Oct 2011
28117 posts
Posted on 1/31/13 at 2:18 pm to
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But just keep believing the spin coming from the LSU office that doesn't want to admit that they cut a kid a few days before signing day.


why did they cut him?
Posted by memphstigers23
Fenway Pahk
Member since Mar 2012
10278 posts
Posted on 1/31/13 at 2:24 pm to
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LSU office that doesn't want to admit that they cut a kid a few days before signing day.

Did he bleed after they cut him? Did they at least clean it up?
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