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TigerinATL 
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| re: Current Front Office worst move was... (Posted on 1/29/13 at 8:00 am to 504hornets)
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Not getting anybody good in return for Jack
Demps dumped Jack to make room for Lopez. That may not have been a trade but it was a "move".
I really can't complain much about any moves Demps has made. I'm more bothered by the ones he didn't make. The fact that he wanted the Lakers deal is the #1 strike against him and I also don't like the way he handled Kaman, both putting him on the block prematurely and not getting anything for him. Admittedly the rumors are Kaman was causing trouble when they decided to sit him, but it killed any value he had and seems like a rookie mistake. I also do wonder if we could have gotten a better return on Marcus Thornton than 2 seasons of Carl Landry.
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VOR
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| re: Current Front Office worst move was... (Posted on 1/29/13 at 8:19 am to GynoSandberg)
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Not fielding a better team while CP3 was here making $3 million a year. You had 4 good players and then BOOM Bonzi Wells, Bobby Jackson and Mo Pete.
Not really on the current regime.
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Walter White 
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| re: Current Front Office worst move was... (Posted on 1/29/13 at 8:20 am to RonBurgundy)
kissing MT23 goodbye
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Fearthehat0307
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| re: Current Front Office worst move was... (Posted on 1/29/13 at 8:22 am to VOR)
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Not really on the current regime
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mm2316
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| re: Current Front Office worst move was... (Posted on 1/29/13 at 8:32 am to RonBurgundy)
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getting rid of Jarred Bayless too soon.
It was a weird situation giving up a 1st, then getting rid of him so soon, but at the time we had too many combo guards of similar talent level (MT, Jack, Bayless, Green).
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mm2316
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| re: Current Front Office worst move was... (Posted on 1/29/13 at 8:39 am to TigerinATL)
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Demps dumped Jack to make room for Lopez. That may not have been a trade but it was a "move".
Agree.
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. The fact that he wanted the Lakers deal is the #1 strike against him
Who really knows what happened with that situation. Even if we did take that trade, who knows what we could have turned that into (i.e. flipping Odom and/or Gasol to other teams).
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I also don't like the way he handled Kaman
That was a pretty strange situation as well, but I'd rather no deal than a bad deal (taking on long term salary). With Kaman expiring, I'm sure teams weren't willing to give up too much to get him.
This post was edited on 1/29 at 8:40 am
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MrWiseGuy 
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| re: Current Front Office worst move was... (Posted on 1/29/13 at 8:43 am to mm2316)
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Who really knows what happened with that situation. Even if we did take that trade, who knows what we could have turned that into (i.e. flipping Odom and/or Gasol to other teams).
The Hornets weren't getting Gasol
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mm2316
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| re: Current Front Office worst move was... (Posted on 1/29/13 at 9:08 am to MrWiseGuy)
My bad, you're right. I meant Scola.
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VOR
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| re: Current Front Office worst move was... (Posted on 1/29/13 at 9:34 am to Fearthehat0307)
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Not really on the current regime
I am the eggman
They are the eggmen
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GynoSandberg 
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| re: Current Front Office worst move was... (Posted on 1/29/13 at 9:43 am to VOR)
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Not really on the current regime
Yeah I know. This regime hasn't had enough time to screw anything up. They havent done anything bad but also nothing great.
I mean, if Jerryd Bayless was the worst move then you are really digging to find something bad.
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brmark70816
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| re: Current Front Office worst move was... (Posted on 1/29/13 at 10:02 am to GynoSandberg)
Trading away all of your young pieces for vets (Collison, Thornton and 2 drafts), then trading away your franchise player and starting a youth movement with a bunch of old players..
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quail man
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| re: Current Front Office worst move was... (Posted on 1/29/13 at 10:22 am to Walter White)
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kissing MT23 goodbye
i don't get this. what has he done that has impressed everyone so much?
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JohnnyKilroy 
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| re: Current Front Office worst move was... (Posted on 1/29/13 at 10:25 am to quail man)
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i don't get this. what has he done that has impressed everyone so much?
Agreed and he was my second favorite hornet behind West.
He was a great scorer (at home) and was generally lazy on defense. We got two years of carl landry out of the deal, which isn't THAT great, but it was a necessary move unless we planned to just give up that year and possibly the next. We were also still trying, in vain, to retain CP3.
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brmark70816
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| re: Current Front Office worst move was... (Posted on 1/29/13 at 10:42 am to JohnnyKilroy)
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We got two years of carl landry out of the deal, which isn't THAT great, but it was a necessary move unless we planned to just give up that year and possibly the next.
For some reason, everyone thinks we traded for Landry cause West got hurt. West got hurt after the trade. It had nothing to do with West being injured and everything to do with getting rid of Thornton. Either Paul or Monty didn't like him or whatever, so they wanted a older pro and Landry was a nice get. I'm sure they knew West was gone (or they didn't want to overpay) and hoped that Landry could become like West. If it worked out, they would have looked like geniuses, but it didn't.
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GynoSandberg
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| re: Current Front Office worst move was... (Posted on 1/29/13 at 11:22 am to quail man)
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i don't get this. what has he done that has impressed everyone so much?
In the 78 games with the Kings (the conclusion on '10/'11 and all of'11/'12) he averaged:
20ppg
4 reb
3 ast
2 stl
45% FG
84% FT
36% 3P
The guy can play when he gets minutes.
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TigerinATL
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| re: Current Front Office worst move was... (Posted on 1/29/13 at 11:35 am to mm2316)
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Who really knows what happened with that situation.
I think what happened is he had a messy ownership situation and no job security and felt the Lakers package was significantly better than the Clippers package even though it was the wrong direction to go. I'm not ready to fire him over it or anything, I just think the Lakers deal would have been employing the wrong team building philosophy even if in the end it could have potentially turned into say CP3 for Scola and Harden. That's not as good as Gordon, Aminu, Davis and Rivers, but that wouldn't be a terrible return on CP3.
Also, for those of you saying no one should complain about Thornton I beg to differ. In a vacuum I consider Landry for Thornton a fair trade, but you should get more than 3 years of usefulness out of a fringe starter level player that you draft. Thornton for 2 years of Landry makes it a bad trade. It'd have been better to swap him for another young up and comer.
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Mattgobear
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| re: Current Front Office worst move was... (Posted on 1/29/13 at 12:12 pm to TigerinATL)
Trading Marcus Thornton.
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HeadyBrosevelt 
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| re: Current Front Office worst move was... (Posted on 1/29/13 at 12:24 pm to TigerinATL)
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I also do wonder if we could have gotten a better return on Marcus Thornton than 2 seasons of Carl Landry.
this
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RonBurgundy
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| re: Current Front Office worst move was... (Posted on 1/29/13 at 1:17 pm to mm2316)
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It was a weird situation giving up a 1st, then getting rid of him so soon,
exactly
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teke184
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| re: Current Front Office worst move was... (Posted on 1/29/13 at 1:30 pm to mm2316)
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With Kaman expiring, I'm sure teams weren't willing to give up too much to get him.
We were getting lowball offers from teams because they figured Dell would accept a deal that meant less money this season but a longer-term committment, similar to the Chandler-Oak deal that Bower took.
IIRC, one particular deal was Detroit trying to send us Charlie Villanueva and someone else with a shitty deal for Kaman and Landry.
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