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Mid Iowa Tiger  Iowa State Fan Houston Member since Feb 2008 1179 posts

| re: Why do republicans say America is morally bankrupt (Posted on 1/28/13 at 9:01 am to cwill)
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Get out of here with your facts! Somebody Starbucks told Zach that teen pregnancy is celebrated and therefore on the rise and ChineseIdiot saw a pregnant teen in some backwater therefore we are a morally bankrupt culture!
You do realize that which way it is trending and how we treat something are two different things right?
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Radiojones  LSU Fan Dutchtown, LA Member since Feb 2007 4482 posts
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| re: Why do republicans say America is morally bankrupt (Posted on 1/28/13 at 9:20 am to shuke33)
I don't think our society is morally bankrupt as a whole. I think there are certain subcultures that would qualify. An example would be the urban/ghetto culture or the "Hollywood" culture. What bothers me more than any of this is how a large portion of our society is completely self absorbed. I have always tried to be outwardly focus towards my fellow man even if i fail sometimes. Our culture seems to be celebrating the inwardly focused more and more.
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Roaad  LSU Fan Bushrod Owns Member since Aug 2006 50724 posts

| re: Why do republicans say America is morally bankrupt (Posted on 1/28/13 at 9:21 am to shuke33)
America lacks the morals to pay back it's creditors, and needs court protection.
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NC_Tigah  LSU Fan Member since Sep 2003 40703 posts
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| re: Why do republicans say America is morally bankrupt (Posted on 1/28/13 at 9:24 am to cwill)
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teen pregnancy is celebrated and therefore on the rise
No. But out-of-wedlock births are on the rise. It is a national economic malignancy.
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cwill  New Orleans Saints Fan Member since Jan 2005 19214 posts
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| re: Why do republicans say America is morally bankrupt (Posted on 1/28/13 at 9:27 am to Mid Iowa Tiger)
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You do realize that which way it is trending and how we treat something are two different things right?
So teen pregnancy is declining and those few saps that make the mistake aren't ostracized....yep, only a morally bankrupt culture would do such a thing. And they weren't arguing what you stated.
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CITWTT  LSU Fan baton rouge Member since Sep 2005 25711 posts

| re: Why do republicans say America is morally bankrupt (Posted on 1/28/13 at 9:40 am to shuke33)
It means a sea change in the nature of society as the norm of America, especially in the present day. Take a gander at what was considered the norms of society 50-60 odd years ago. There was accepted structure across the majority of the nation. Afterwards American society has washed itself in all things "moral" being relative as the framers of thought adopted a form of norms with a sense of ideas of morals along with the scientific principles of Einstien and physics, there in no longer an absolute to measure the notion against. The idea of moral relativism has gotten to the point that no one raises an eyebrow over the countless murders or partial birth abortions as being sickening or abhorrent at all. The baby has been thrown out with the bath water without a thought to that fact being given shrift at all.
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buddhavista Member since Jul 2012 3543 posts

| re: Why do republicans say America is morally bankrupt (Posted on 1/28/13 at 9:44 am to joshnorris14)
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How many pregnant HS girls do you know Zach? Because, from my experience, they are generally ostracized for being pregnant. It's not something that gets celebrated.
The thing is teenage birth rates have declined since the 50s, which is hte funny part of his diatribe. He is right that less women are married. If we just opened their car door for them, they wouldn't get tats and give blow jobs. Wait, do we win in that scenario?
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buddhavista Member since Jul 2012 3543 posts

| re: Why do republicans say America is morally bankrupt (Posted on 1/28/13 at 9:48 am to NC_Tigah)
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teen pregnancy is celebrated and therefore on the rise No. But out-of-wedlock births are on the rise. It is a national economic malignancy.
I completely agree with this. The social acceptability for having kids out of wedlock is a real economic issue. It causes all sorts of problems for the state and its residents, plus kids born out of wedlock are put at a real disadvantage in ultra competitive workforce. I wouldn't say this is moral bankruptcy though. I think that term is complete load of horse shite. Acceptable morals change over time and culture. ours are changing. We have a gap between the law and what is morally acceptable, that needs to be changed IMHO. But crime rates are down, if anything we are less morally bankrupt.
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WildTchoupitoulas Member since Jan 2010 11072 posts

| re: Why do republicans say America is morally bankrupt (Posted on 1/28/13 at 9:49 am to Zach)
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It's generational. In the 50s if a HS girl got pregnant she went away to Aunt Flo...
OMFG 
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DonChowder  LSU Fan Crockpot Member since Dec 2012 1667 posts
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| re: Why do republicans say America is morally bankrupt (Posted on 1/28/13 at 9:51 am to buddhavista)
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If we just opened their car door for them, they wouldn't get tats and give blow jobs.
But I like tats and BJs and opening doors for my SO.
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buddhavista Member since Jul 2012 3543 posts

| re: Why do republicans say America is morally bankrupt (Posted on 1/28/13 at 9:52 am to DonChowder)
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But I like tats and BJs and opening doors for my SO.
the moral bankruptcy is your fault. What is your address so I can send the moral collections agency after you? This will involve no more BJs fwiw.
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Roaad  LSU Fan Bushrod Owns Member since Aug 2006 50724 posts

| re: Why do republicans say America is morally bankrupt (Posted on 1/28/13 at 10:25 am to buddhavista)
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teenage birth rates have declined since the 50s
birth rates, yes. How about pregnancies? I haven't seen a stat on that, so I am unsure. Abortion availability has a great deal to do with the lower birth rate, I would think. I would imagine there are fewer births, and more pregnancies. As a teacher, I can honestly say that kids are more active at younger ages than at any point since I have been alive.
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buddhavista Member since Jul 2012 3543 posts

| re: Why do republicans say America is morally bankrupt (Posted on 1/28/13 at 10:44 am to Roaad)
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How about pregnancies?
pregnancies are also lower, from that source.
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SlowFlowPro  Stanford Fan Equality is a circle, not a = Member since Jan 2004 265083 posts

| re: Why do republicans say America is morally bankrupt (Posted on 1/28/13 at 10:56 am to Roaad)
abortion rates are going down too though
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SlowFlowPro  Stanford Fan Equality is a circle, not a = Member since Jan 2004 265083 posts

| re: Why do republicans say America is morally bankrupt (Posted on 1/28/13 at 12:44 pm to Revelator)
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Always slavery and women's rights.
things that are decreasing: violent crimes teen pregnancies abortions
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asurob1  Arizona State Fan Arizona Member since May 2009 5996 posts

| re: Why do republicans say America is morally bankrupt (Posted on 1/28/13 at 1:00 pm to Roaad)
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I would imagine there are fewer births, and more pregnancies. As a teacher, I can honestly say that kids are more active at younger ages than at any point since I have been alive.
I love threads like this...because the in the 50s we were awash in morals. The difference is girls would vanish from school for 8 months when accidents happen now...we don't kick them out because they got pregnant.
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10888bge  LSU Fan In a good place Member since Aug 2011 7146 posts

| re: Why do republicans say America is morally bankrupt (Posted on 1/28/13 at 1:02 pm to SlowFlowPro)
After reading through this thread, certain truths are reaffirmed; people like to frick, and nosy prudes like to bitch about people who like to frick.
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Rockyn  LSU Fan Tampa Bay Member since Sep 2008 5548 posts

| re: Why do republicans say America is morally bankrupt (Posted on 1/28/13 at 1:03 pm to TN Bhoy)
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America's murdered 55+ million children since 1973 and most people don't bat an eye. That's the definition of morally bankrupt.
God's will, bitch. That's 40 million less Democrats. You should be on your knees thanking the good lord.
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HNTIGER1980  LSU Fan Member since Oct 2011 439 posts

| re: Why do republicans say America is morally bankrupt (Posted on 1/28/13 at 1:08 pm to shuke33)
What does that even mean? __________________________________________________ That they can't lynch black people any more without the law arresting the reactionary arses.
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10888bge  LSU Fan In a good place Member since Aug 2011 7146 posts

| re: Why do republicans say America is morally bankrupt (Posted on 1/28/13 at 1:10 pm to Rockyn)
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America's murdered 55+ million children since 1973 and most people don't bat an eye. That's the definition of morally bankrupt.
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God's will, bitch.
I love this argument. Throw in the fact that the right Christian aspect of the nation seems bent on throwing god into the middle of an abortion argument. Then hit them with the " Well god know everything. Controls everything, therefore he wanted those children dead."
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