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As Christ said, you will know them by their fruits. If the people were truly in relationship with Christ and in tune with His spirit, they would not have been so easily led down those paths clearly not in line with Christ.


Mike, r u talking about the papacy, or catholics during that time or the Christians who broke away from the c.c.?






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Mike da Tigah
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Mike, r u talking about the papacy, or catholics during that time or the Christians who broke away from the c.c.?



I am simply talking about Christians in a very general sense, or rather those who claim to follow the teaching of Christ and who rely upon Him and those teachings for their very life her and thereafter.

Protestants are not exempt from being led astray, Far from it. At this very minute there are countless people who are embracing doctrines and teachings that are more feel good self edifying bull than the truth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Throughout the years since Christ walked this earth, many people of various denominations and affiliations made by man have been deceived to this day, some to heinous acts, and others to levels that only affected themselves, yet still deceived and led astray just the same.

There is only one way, and that which deviates from it, Scripture, regardless of the package or wrapper it's presented in, is in opposition to Christ, so is exactly who and what Christ warned against, those many who will come in His name and yet represent Him not.








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Swampcat
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I am simply talking about Christians in a very general sense,


This is very true even today, I agree. However For those Christians who were close to Christ and whom recognized the falsehood of the c.c stood up against the c.c and gave their lives by the hands of the c. Machine. We r not just talking about disagreeing with doctrine, but the con sequences for having left the c.c. We can all walk away from any church today if we disagree with church doctrine or actions, but during the reformation your life was at stake.






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Mike da Tigah
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This is very true even today, I agree. However For those Christians who were close to Christ and whom recognized the falsehood of the c.c stood up against the c.c and gave their lives by the hands of the c. Machine. We r not just talking about disagreeing with doctrine, but the con sequences for having left the c.c. We can all walk away from any church today if we disagree with church doctrine or actions, but during the reformation your life was at stake.


The RCC, as well as many other Protestant churches have blood on their hands. As a former Catholic myself, I know exactly what you're getting at, but since my exodus from that church, I have also seen a tremendous amount of teachings that are absolutely not in line with scripture, yet people buy into it hook line and sinker, and you know why? It's simple. Their eyes are fixated just as the Catholics were in Spain during the inquisitions, on a man made religion and man himself, rather than on Christ Himself, He who they supposedly depend upon for their very salvation here and thereafter. It's a lazy and unbelief issue at play, one that finds it easier to look to a man to tell you what God's will is than to rely upon God Himself through scripture. We still face those things today.

Remember when Jimmy Swaggert fell, or PTL, or insert minister of your choosing? People were and are devastated, because they were deceived into the false sense of security in looking to the man following Christ than Christ Himself. I can't tell you how many people were shaken in their faith when these people fell, and all because they were looking to the creation rather than the creator. It's a very easy trap to find yourself ensnared in, but the one thing we all should be mindful of if we're following Christ is that Christ came to save us all from our sins, and none are perfect, no not one, so don't follow imperfection or even place it upon a pedestal of any kind of hierarchy. It's just sinners who Christ came to save from themselves, every last one of them, including yours truly here.









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Their eyes are fixated just as the Catholics were in Spain during the inquisitions, on a man made religion and man himself, rather than on Christ Himself, He who they supposedly depend upon for their very salvation here and thereafter

Amen!!!!









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I have a hunch that this has a lot more to do with his nationality than his religion.
He's Persian. I don't understand what you mean.

He's also American.






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Mike da Tigah
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He's also American.


True, but the basis for radical Islam coming against and singling out Christians and Christianity and all that they feel opposes Islam is pretty well founded. America being a mirror reflection of Christianity through the freedom and liberty afforded us only serves to further their hatred for both America and Christianity as they see it as one in the same, that which stands against their almighty rule over the masses. They can control people through fear and religious theocracy, but they can't with a people who answer to a higher power than theirs. Those people cannot be ruled because they answer to Christ. That stands against their rule over the people, as does freedom of speech, thought, expression, or education away from their indoctrination. Same as it ever was with authoritarians. The Soviet Union was against Christianity not within it's state run religion for that very reason as well. Anything or anyone who may or may not be a threat to their power over the people must be stomped out, or else the people will not respect their rule and overthrow them. Where the Spirit of The Lord is there is Liberty.... So... Where the spirit of The Lord is not allowed, where is liberty? The Romans and the Sanhedrin, and Pharisees had the same fear, thus Christ was hung on a cross, and those who followed Christ afterwards were persecuted and put to death. Same as it ever was....














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WildTchoupitoulas
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Looks like the man committed a capital offense. Are you against capital punishment?





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According to Islam you are guilty of a capital crime as you are according to them an infidel. Killing you to them is a good and proper deed for not accepting the Prophet and that he alone is the true voice of God(Allah as they call it) and killing you is not a sin it is just you doing Allahs will on earth.





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WildTchoupitoulas
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According to Islam you are guilty of a capital crime as you are according to them an infidel.

Yes, that';s why I don't go to their counries where their laws would apply to me. Duh.

We can't complain about their capital punishment while carrying out capital punishment here without looking like hypocrits.

Complining about their capital punishment is like the French complaining about ours. And we care about as much about what the French think about our capital punishment as much as Islamic countries care about what we think of their capital punishment.

It's their country, their laws, they can do what they want just as this is our country with our laws and we can do what we want.

You don't like their laws? Stay the frick out of thier country.






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Damn I'll give that pastor credit. He doesn't take his Christianity lightly like 99.9 percent of Christians.





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They obviously view those who have a different point of view from them as a threat.


They are also known as progressives






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Antonio Moss
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Exactly what is wrong with Religion mixing with government






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Antonio Moss
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We can't complain about their capital punishment while carrying out capital punishment here without looking like hypocrits.


I'm against capital punishment but this a seriously attenuated argument. Even against capital punishment, I can recognize the difference in severity between murder and preaching an unpopular religion.






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The theocratic state over there is going to use violence and intimidation against all who threaten its pow-wah.


And of course no secular state has ever done such a thing






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WildTchoupitoulas
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I can recognize the difference in severity between murder and preaching an unpopular religion

That's your opinion.

We're talking about people's everlasting souls. Some may believe that's a little more important than our temporary lives here on Earth.

Other cultures take their relationship with God MUCH more seriously than we do. Should we impose our belief system on them by telling them, "Hey, lighten up with all the God stuff"?






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Mike da Tigah
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You don't like their laws? Stay the frick out of thier country.


And what of the Christians who are citizens of that country as is the case here?

Should humans anywhere really be expected to recognize the legitimacy of governments that care so little for their people and their needs as they do so as to condone it because its their laws? The people have no say at all in those matters. As a person who believes in human rights, I really have a hard time with justifying that.






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WildTchoupitoulas
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And what of the Christians who are citizens of that country as is the case here?

Try to get the frick out? Die a martyr as an act of civil disobedience?

It's none of my business.

Do you want people from other countries trying to tell us how to conduct our laws and religion in America? I sure as frick don't.

What about the rastafarian in THIS country who's doing 20 years for a third offense ganjah possession? We're actually supoposed to have freedom of religion.







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Mike da Tigah
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Do you want people from other countries trying to tell us how to conduct our laws and religion in America? I sure as frick don't.


If this country ever disintegrates into an intolerant enemy of religious freedom, I sure as hell hope someone speaks out against it and tells our government they are garbage for their heavy hand over the people.






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