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re: LSU (10-6,1-4) @ Kentucky (12-6,3-2) - Sat 3pm - CBS

Posted on 1/25/13 at 12:37 pm to
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 1/25/13 at 12:37 pm to
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I definitely think LSU can. They will need someone to go off though. Either Carmouche, Stringer, or Hickey (best bet is hickey) would need to really get the hot hand.
There really is no "unbeatable" team in the SEC this year... next year will be different.

I don't see an upset in this game, but would be happy if the team shows progress and doesn't take a step back.

Two questions: Does Kentucky press, and has LSU really seen a pressing defense this year?
Posted by SouthOfSouth
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 1/25/13 at 12:39 pm to
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I love to see LSU in a press. However with limited depth, 40 minutes of full court press will cost us at the end of games. Working in a half-court press in the first half might offer defensive intensity with a reprieve from the exhaustion of a full court press.


All I will say on this is it wears down both teams. Both teams lack depth. LSU is much better running than in half court offense, and Kentucky does have more talent.

Something will have to happen out of the ordinary for LSU to win and I think the press gives us a better chance at achieving something special in the press for 40 minutes than waiting till we are down 15 to get into it.
Posted by chuckie3325
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Apr 2009
581 posts
Posted on 1/25/13 at 12:42 pm to
Kentucky doesn't hanlding the press well and they don't score they ball all that great, One of there big men is a 6"10 shooter so he doesn't come in the paint a lot, if LSU can create turnovers and Knock down a few shoots, with out getting crushed on the Off rebounding depart, they can win.
Posted by SouthOfSouth
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2008
43456 posts
Posted on 1/25/13 at 12:42 pm to
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Does Kentucky press, and has LSU really seen a pressing defense this year?


They haven't really pressed in what I've seen of them.

LSU did play Northwestern early in the season that did some press. Maybe a few others have touched it. I remember one game (forget which one) but we were trying to dribble out of the press too much rather than passing out of it. Could be an issue, but I don't think that's Kentuckys game.

They are a shot blocking team, but not much stealing going on with them.
Posted by SouthOfSouth
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2008
43456 posts
Posted on 1/25/13 at 12:44 pm to
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Yes!!!

EPL in the a.m. then B-ball at 3.


That was what I was thinking... Ill be nice and drunk before the tip off even happens.
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
72937 posts
Posted on 1/25/13 at 12:44 pm to
If Alabama can beat them LSU should be able to beat them.

Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35394 posts
Posted on 1/25/13 at 1:10 pm to
Thank you chuckie3325 and SoS

A team that does not handle the press well and will not press back, but likes to be up tempo. Sounds like we should press a lot. I would expect CJJ to use all of his timeouts in the first half of this one to keep Kentucky from going on runs.

My main worry; JOB3 foul trouble.
Posted by SouthOfSouth
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2008
43456 posts
Posted on 1/25/13 at 1:29 pm to
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A team that does not handle the press well and will not press back, but likes to be up tempo. Sounds like we should press a lot. I would expect CJJ to use all of his timeouts in the first half of this one to keep Kentucky from going on runs.

My main worry; JOB3 foul trouble.


I think LSU presses early and often. I agree the biggest concern is JOB foul trouble. We we able to win the aTm game due to him playing 35 minutes. Otherwise, Im not sure we pull it out.

We really need to get them frustrated and take the crowd out early. Some early steals and 3's could really mess with the young Kentucky teams head.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28339 posts
Posted on 1/25/13 at 1:37 pm to
Certainly not a game anyone should "expect" LSU to win, but although they are supremely talented, this isn't last year's UK team. If the season ended today, UK would be squarely on the bubble to make the NCAAT. While I dont think they'll end the season that way, at this point this looks to be one of the more "beatable" UK teams under Calipari. Problem is, man for man they are more talented than LSU, and LSU has really struggled to get consistent scoring in SEC play.

For LSU to win this game, JOB will have to get a double-double, the Coleman that showed up against A&M will have to show up in Rupp, and either Hickey or Stringer will have to go off for something in the 18-24 pt range. LSU also has to be careful with the ball, while forcing UK into some turnovers. A tall task indeed, but not completely impossible.

UK - 70
LSU - 61
Posted by austintigerdad
Llano County, TX
Member since Nov 2010
1884 posts
Posted on 1/25/13 at 1:42 pm to
Team's flight is en route to Blue Grass airport at this moment.

Posted by oauron
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2011
14512 posts
Posted on 1/25/13 at 1:47 pm to
Hoping for an upset, but I don't think it'll happen.
Posted by SouthOfSouth
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2008
43456 posts
Posted on 1/25/13 at 2:17 pm to
Jerry Tipton ?@JerryTipton
Cal offered no insight into status of Cauley-Stein. WCS did not practice Thursday, Cal said


This is good news to me. I think C-S could be the difference if the game is as up tempo as I think ti will be. Cal not saying anything leads me to believe that C-S won't be ready but we shall see.


edit:

Then this came up:

Reporters saw Cauley-Stein in hallway in practice clothes with no more than a support bandage below his left knee.

Looks like C-S may be playing. Hopefully a little hobbled at least.
This post was edited on 1/25/13 at 2:20 pm
Posted by austintigerdad
Llano County, TX
Member since Nov 2010
1884 posts
Posted on 1/25/13 at 3:20 pm to
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Is there a line out yet?
It's opened with Kentucky favored by 17.
Posted by austintigerdad
Llano County, TX
Member since Nov 2010
1884 posts
Posted on 1/25/13 at 3:53 pm to
Check out the John Calipari Pre-LSU Press Conference.
quote:

"We need some guys to sit right now. There's some guys that should not be playing but about four or five minutes, they're playing thirty..."
This post was edited on 1/25/13 at 3:58 pm
Posted by The Truth 34
Chavez Ravine
Member since May 2010
41170 posts
Posted on 1/25/13 at 4:07 pm to
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There really is no "unbeatable" team in the SEC this year


Have you seen Florida play this yr?
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
155596 posts
Posted on 1/25/13 at 4:15 pm to
any word on who the cbs announcers are? please god not brando.
This post was edited on 1/25/13 at 4:16 pm
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164137 posts
Posted on 1/25/13 at 5:42 pm to
The games isn't on CBS. It's an SEC Network game on channel 7. Clay Matvick and Joe Dean Jr. are on the call.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
155596 posts
Posted on 1/25/13 at 6:52 pm to
thats what i figured
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35394 posts
Posted on 1/25/13 at 8:33 pm to
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Have you seen Florida play this yr?
Yes. But we were really unprepared for their zone and I think even we would do better a 2nd time. Having said that, they are probably unbeatable for us.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
14493 posts
Posted on 1/25/13 at 9:10 pm to
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O'Bryant has gone away from his fading shot and made some moves attacking the basket which have helped him with two consecutive double doubles.


Only took him a year and a half and about 20 consectutive missed fall-aways, but glad he's finally seemed to get it. Now the 18-footers still have to go, cause he ain't making those either.

Best thing is he's boarding now. Hope he keeps that up.

quote:

LSU will need a similar effort from Anthony Hickey to win in Rupp. Is it possible? Of course. Likely? Absolutely not.
IMHO Hickey is shooting just a little bit too much. I've noticed the last two games he's made some good moves into the lane and drawn defenders. But where he almost always used to find the open man, he's now taking more of the tougher shots than he used to.

Is it by the coaches direction? Maybe, but I'd like to see him strike more of the balance he used to have pass/shoot. His assist numbers are down a bit too low.

Cats 75-59, but hope we can make it a better game than that.
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