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re: Louisiana High School Football will split Public/Private. **Edited with Yes/No**

Posted on 1/29/13 at 12:20 am to
Posted by Interception
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Posted on 1/29/13 at 12:20 am to
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except one thing......the LHSAA knew JC and ECA would sue them (and win) if they did that so they just whistled past the graveyard.


No doubt, it would be an open shut case and rightfully so. I was thinking JC, Calvary and Evangel will become the lepers of the Louisiana football moving forward. Their only game now might be playing a national schedule. The privates don't want their arse either.

The LHSAA became a very weak organization on Friday.

I think the key is the privates breaking away and slowly bringing in the publics over time and reuniting the association. The kicker is a member can be voted out in the by laws and of course no legislature. They really piss me off by trying to get involved in this mess. The politards are going to make a hard situation worse.
Posted by badmonkey
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Posted on 1/29/13 at 4:53 am to
It's funny to read so many comments. For those not in the know...it clearly shows.
Posted by Icansee4miles
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Posted on 1/29/13 at 6:36 am to
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It's funny to read so many comments. For those not in the know...it clearly shows


Then you should enlighten us.
Posted by lctiger
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Posted on 1/29/13 at 6:49 am to
look for Legislation to be pushed which takes away funding from public schools that exclude other public-"select enrollment" schools. At least this is what I'm hearing from people "in the know."
Posted by choupiquesushi
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Posted on 1/29/13 at 7:15 am to
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thinking JC, Calvary and Evangel will become the lepers of the Louisiana football moving forward. Their only game now might be playing a national schedule. The privates don't want their arse either.


Calvary has how many state titles?

Calvary has never been past the semifinals.....


Posted by GhostofJackson
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Posted on 1/29/13 at 8:48 am to
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Calvary has how many state titles?

Calvary has never been past the semifinals.....


Calvary is a rising giant. They will win the small schools next year if the format doesn't change.
Posted by GhostofJackson
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Posted on 1/29/13 at 8:51 am to
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look for Legislation to be pushed which takes away funding from public schools that exclude other public-"select enrollment" schools. At least this is what I'm hearing from people "in the know."


Meh, I'm of the opinion the whole charter school business is just a bubble that will go away in the long term. How on earth with a model of public schools which funnel all of the good public students to quasi private institutions hold up? Every Nola and BR regular public school will receive F grades and the schools will have to be reintegrated. The only kids left at the regular publics will be non-motivated kids, many with learning disabilities and character issues.
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 1/29/13 at 9:13 am to
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The only kids left at the regular publics will be non-motivated kids, many with learning disabilities and character issues.


This is a net positive for the rest of the kids.
Posted by GhostofJackson
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Posted on 1/29/13 at 9:19 am to
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This is a net positive for the rest of the kids.


When those schools are perennial failures, they will have to reintegrate the charter school kids or force the charter schools to take everyone who wants to go there.
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 1/29/13 at 9:29 am to
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When those schools are perennial failures, they will have to reintegrate the charter school kids or force the charter schools to take everyone who wants to go there.


With any luck, the process will take long enough to ensure at least one generation semi-scholars before people intent on destroying progress stick their grubby little hands in the pie.

ETA: I do think that Coursey is right about needing to look at the feasibility of the ISD model in Louisiana. It's already starting in some places (I think that's how Zachary and Central work).
This post was edited on 1/29/13 at 9:31 am
Posted by GhostofJackson
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Posted on 1/29/13 at 9:42 am to
I'm not saying it's good or bad, I'm saying how the current system will reel itself back in, like it always does. Everyone wants change, but they never think the change through.

FWIW, I believe that the public school system should break off at 10th grade and they should turn the traditional public schools into tech and vocational schools. Why pretend these kids are all going to college? They are entering the workforce as soon as they graduate HS if not earlier, so build a better worker.
Posted by tigerbru17
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Posted on 1/29/13 at 9:50 am to
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FWIW, I believe that the public school system should break off at 10th grade and they should turn the traditional public schools into tech and vocational schools. Why pretend these kids are all going to college? They are entering the workforce as soon as they graduate HS if not earlier, so build a better worker.

Lmao
Posted by GhostofJackson
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Posted on 1/29/13 at 10:01 am to
Laughing at the rationality of it or the fact it will never happen?
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 1/29/13 at 10:03 am to
To be fair, the rationality of it is the reason it's a fact it will never happen.
Posted by tigerbru17
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Posted on 1/29/13 at 10:06 am to
What's your plan for the blue ribbons of St.Tammany?
Posted by GhostofJackson
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Posted on 1/29/13 at 10:06 am to
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To be fair, the rationality of it is the reason it's a fact it will never happen.


I get that, but if we were smart enough (we as a cultural aggregate are obviously not) we would implement a plan to identify potential jobs at age 15 and start apprenticeship programs for the kids.

Now THAT would screw up some sports hahah.
Posted by GhostofJackson
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Posted on 1/29/13 at 10:09 am to
St. Tammany is different from the Southshore. It's like north and west LA where, because there isn't the socio-economic problems of the urban public schools, doesn't share the same conflicts. This is really why so many publics in New Orleans didn't want to split. Public schools know they need the private schools for their programs to survive. Privates bring infrastructure for sports, money for games, etc.

Posted by choupiquesushi
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Posted on 1/29/13 at 10:16 am to
I have heard that a well respected principal will propose..

1. Counting or Classifying select schools differently.

2. creating an option in football super class.

3. doing away with attendance zones completely.


or just walking away from the LHSAA... might be a lot more publics willing to walk....than people realize.
Posted by GhostofJackson
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Posted on 1/29/13 at 10:22 am to
I think most NOLA public schools walk away, and that may start a contagion. I hope that all schools that voted for the proposition don't get included in the new association.
Posted by TigerintheNO
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Posted on 1/29/13 at 10:35 am to
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1. Let's kick out our best teams from the private schools

2. Let's kick out our most resourceful public schools too.

3. Let's call it the "select" division -- kind of like USSSA baseball and AAU basketball -- just to reinforce the notion that they play a better brand of football in that division



It will be interesting to see the most media coverage. Fourth Down on 4, Friday Nite Football, WWL870, do you really think that they will do a 50%/50% split with the coverage between select & non-select? 75%/25% or will it be even more slanted?
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