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re: How was Children of Men not even mentioned for best picture for the 79th AA

Posted on 1/24/13 at 1:28 pm to
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 1/24/13 at 1:28 pm to
I agree and there are many movies like that that get eaten up with a spoon by the self proclaimed intellectuals...Inception comes to mind...and every episode of Oprah
Posted by RonBurgundy
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Posted on 1/24/13 at 1:30 pm to
quote:

The Departed


is better
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/24/13 at 1:31 pm to
i remember saying this after i watched 21 grams with a friend, and then a few years later (after forgetting about that) she calls and asks what i'm doing and i say "watching 21 grams...it's not that bad" and she WENT. OFF. on me
Posted by boom roasted
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Posted on 1/24/13 at 1:33 pm to
I think it was good but not that good. I'll have to revisit it.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 1/24/13 at 1:53 pm to
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and how was it that these were all considered better


Its the Oscars. They are more famous now for screwing up than they are getting it right.

The greatest director of all time, Alfred Hitchcock, never won an Oscar. I have very little to no respect for a bunch of senile 80 year old white dudes deciding who the best director is and best picture. Hitchcock has possibly 5 of the top 50 movies of all time and best director. He wasnt even nominated for what some consider the greatest movie of all time, Vertigo, or North by Northwest, Dial M for Murder (one of my top 3 of all time), The Birds, ect. YAH ACADEMY!
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
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Posted on 1/24/13 at 2:02 pm to
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movies like that that get eaten up with a spoon by the self proclaimed intellectuals...Inception comes to mind

Inception was (ETA: is) awesome. Period.
This post was edited on 1/24/13 at 2:06 pm
Posted by boom roasted
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Posted on 1/24/13 at 2:04 pm to
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Inception was awesome. Period.


I disagree. Didn't think it came anywhere close to the hype it was getting. I have no desire to see it again.
Posted by Baloo
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Posted on 1/24/13 at 2:21 pm to
I don't often agree with SFP, but when it comes to recognizing Babel is a horrifyingly awful piece of shite, I'm in. A series of contrived coincidences is not demonstrating the inter-connectedness of all of the people on earth, it is showing you are a lazy writer.

I despise that movie with an almost biblical fury. I honestly think less of people who say they like it. I really really hate Babel.
Posted by beaverfever
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Posted on 1/24/13 at 2:25 pm to
I watched babel a long time ago and thought it was pretty meh. The look of the movie was all it really seemed to have going for it. Children of men was really good and I've seen it probably 5 times now but the Departed might have been the best movie of the 2000's.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/24/13 at 2:25 pm to
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I honestly think less of people who say they like it.

i really have gotten to that point

i have a friend who hates babel so much he didn't want to be friends with me when he saw it in my DVD collection (i used to buy DVDs 3/$10 at rental stores and babel made the cut one time)
Posted by Baloo
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Posted on 1/24/13 at 2:31 pm to
That's how I got my copy. Maybe picked it up as the same time as 21 Grams....
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/24/13 at 2:42 pm to
i first saw 21 grams with the aforementioned friend and she had already rented it...so i don't own it
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 1/24/13 at 2:45 pm to
Babel actually won the Golden Globe for Motion Picture - Drama that year. I never watched it. I saw the trailer and thought it looked bad. It's actually at 69% on Rotten Tomatoes so there was no universal love from the critics for this film. Babel should have been replaced by United 93 or Children of Men among the five nominees for Best Picture that year. Both are far superior films.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/24/13 at 2:47 pm to
United 93 gets respect from me b/c it almost made me cry. i'm basically like a robot, so that's a big deal
Posted by RollTide1987
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/24/13 at 2:50 pm to
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United 93 gets respect from me b/c it almost made me cry. i'm basically like a robot, so that's a big deal


The final scene where the passengers attack the hijackers was probably the most tense I have ever been in a movie theater. It was so realistic and so powerful.

Final Scene

The passenger's attack on the hijackers begins around 11:15.



This post was edited on 1/24/13 at 2:53 pm
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 1/24/13 at 2:50 pm to
It's been a while since I've seen Babel, but I remember finishing it and thinking, "That's it? That's what everyone said was amazing?"

The first time I saw CoM I was blown away. Some heavy hitting emotional conflicts that always seem to leave me feeling super depressed after watching it, yet I will rewatch it because it is that good.
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 1/24/13 at 3:05 pm to
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Babel. . . I never watched it.
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Babel should have been replaced by United 93 or Children of Men among the five nominees for Best Picture that year. Both are far superior films.

How do you know anything is a far superior film to a movie you haven't seen?. . .

Anyways, I didn't realize (or had forgotten) that United 93 came out in '06. That's a bigger snub than CoM to me. It was a great movie, maybe my second favorite movie of 2006 (behind The Departed).
This post was edited on 1/24/13 at 3:16 pm
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/24/13 at 3:11 pm to
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How do you know anything is a far superior film to a movie you haven't seen?. . .


Because I hate films that deal with interconnected story lines that happen upon one gigantic coincidence after another. Crash, the previous year's winner for Best Picture, was like that and I didn't care too much for it at all.

And considering Children of Men is in my all-time Top 30 and United 93 is in my all-time Top 5, I don't think Babel could surpass those two films for me.



Posted by etm512
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Posted on 1/24/13 at 3:28 pm to
I try to hold back my praise for United 93 as much as I can because of the events it deals with. Those events in themselves will draw an emotional response from me as is so the movie, while well made, has a "shortcut" to getting that accomplished. It has some very powerful scenes but I can't tell how much of that is to the credit of the production of the movie or just the mere relationship it has with some very real events in all of our lives. When asked about this movie, my standard answer is to say "it's a well made film" and leave it at that.
Posted by tom
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Posted on 1/24/13 at 3:37 pm to
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Gigli was not nearly as bad as it was made out to be, yet critics were scared to be "that guy" who defended it.


That movie was terrible. Just because it was terrible in the same way that other more coherent films get a pass for doesn't mean it wasn't terrible.
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