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Anyone here compete in the IBCA (BBQ) event that was at DS High?

Posted on 1/22/13 at 8:33 am
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 1/22/13 at 8:33 am
I was asked to be a judge for the competition. There was some great BBQ presented. Really suprised by the quality of the chicken presented. They had told us a former Jack Daniels World Champ in chicken was one of the contestants. Do yourself a favor if someone ever asks you to be a judge in one of these things dont turn them down.
This post was edited on 1/22/13 at 8:45 am
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
138614 posts
Posted on 1/22/13 at 9:46 am to
that is the problems with those local competitions

the judging is a joke and oftentimes soley based on their personal tastes as opposed to set criteria
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
108478 posts
Posted on 1/22/13 at 9:54 am to
jusging at this deals is very subjective and comes down to politics and who knows who
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 1/22/13 at 9:57 am to
Thats the way it is for almost all except for the national invitational levels. Even then I would argue its about personal tastes. The scoring at all levels of IBCA is personal taste of 1-10. Which takes in account other factors that you are instructed to judge on. There is no set criteria unless the judge knows about it.

At this competition I would say that for ribs for example most of the judges preferred fall off the bone vs tender but complete rib. There was no instruction to the contrary. That is why those in the competition win one week and dont place the next.

I did glance at a ladies scores next to me. She would give a 5 for an entry that I gave a 9 to. I gave a 4 to an entry she gave a 8 to. The competitors never know who their judges will be which isnt a bad thing all the time though.
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
Member since Jul 2008
52599 posts
Posted on 1/22/13 at 9:59 am to
So it's a crap shoot?
Posted by G Vice
Lafayette, LA
Member since Dec 2006
13169 posts
Posted on 1/22/13 at 10:00 am to
Not true if the judging is run by an IBCA judge.

I was a judge in a local event run by IBCA judges. There is a definitely a standardized process for judging, but yes, it depends on the tastes and preferences of the judges you have. But when you have 10 judges, there will be a trend in scoring, and so to in rankings.
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
75674 posts
Posted on 1/22/13 at 10:01 am to
quote:

jusging at this deals is very subjective


as it should be. give them the parameters then let them make a determination based on their personal observations.

quote:

comes down to politics and who knows who


pretty sure 90% of these are blind tastings.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 1/22/13 at 10:03 am to
Outside of KCBS that certifies its judges (maybe some others do as well not sure) its pretty much going to be a crap shoot yes. Some entries were obviously amature to me (were very few) and some were pros. I would guess that wasnt hard to tell for most judges no matter their background.

Doesnt take rocket science for a competitor to know that most people will like the ribs to fall off the bone when the judges are not going to be given a lesson in criteria though.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 1/22/13 at 10:04 am to
I think he meant about who gets to do the judging not who wins. At least thats the way I understood it. I was asked because I knew someone who knew someone. So yea that happens.
Posted by Politiceaux
Member since Feb 2009
17667 posts
Posted on 1/22/13 at 10:04 am to
quote:

At this competition I would say that for ribs for example most of the judges preferred fall off the bone vs tender but complete rib.
That's a damn shame but not surprising.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 1/22/13 at 10:08 am to
The process is score a 1 if you want to spit it out and 10 if its the best you have had.

Now the process used to judge is very clean. Just not what people are judging on. Taste is everything there.

They tell you to rank appearance as well (to go into overall score) which I have a problem with their score process. If you are judge 1 at a table of 9 you dont see what box 9 looks like until 8 people cut into it. Then if it makes the finals and you are judge 1 then you dont see that cut of chicken until 17 people cut into it. How do you judge that on looks?
This post was edited on 1/22/13 at 10:10 am
Posted by BlackenedOut
The Big Sleazy
Member since Feb 2011
6064 posts
Posted on 1/22/13 at 10:17 am to
Every single food competition is a crap shoot and subject to the personal taste of the judges.

From backyard cook off to Iron Chef.
Posted by G Vice
Lafayette, LA
Member since Dec 2006
13169 posts
Posted on 1/22/13 at 10:25 am to
You're right. It's not a perfect system.

But dammit if they didn't tell the entrants EXACTLY how to stack their ribs in the box they submit to us
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