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Kafka
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Wooly
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RUN ARCHIE!!! HE GON KIIILLLLL YOOOOOUUUUU


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dukke v
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The Harbaughs have never won anything


That's fine. But Jim Harbaugh is a GREAT COACH.Eli Won Two SB's. I give him a ton of credit for that. Peyton is prob the BEST REGULAR season QB in NFL history, But SUCKS come playoff time.John Harbough is a DECENT coach BUT had the GUTS to FIRE his OC During the season. BOLD MOVE. But he has had TOOOO much talent to Finally get to the SB.


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A little too early to tell, but over the course of their careers I have a feeling it will be the Harbaughs. Jim has already been to two straight NfC champ games and has made it to the Super Bowl in only his second year. John has been to the AFC champ game 3 out of 5 years and is making it to his first Super Bowl as well. Their early success makes me think they will garner more accolades over the course of their time in the NFL


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VOR
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Absurd, meaningless comparison.


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Bench McElroy
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John Harbough is a DECENT coach BUT had the GUTS to FIRE his OC During the season. BOLD MOVE. But he has had TOOOO much talent to Finally get to the SB.


FWIW, the 49ers have had more talent than the Ravens the last two years.


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LSUbase13
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Fox Mulder


You tell me.

Archie Manning
Heisman trophy finalist
2x Pro Bowl
Peyton Manning
Heisman trophy finalist
1 Super Bowl Champ
1 Super Bowl MVP
12x Pro Bowl
Eli Manning
Heisman trophy finalist
2x Super Bowl Champ
2x Super Bowl MVP
3X Pro Bowl
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John Harbaugh
Defensive back at Miami (OH)
Leads Baltimore Ravens to Super Bowl XLVII

Jim Harbaugh
Heisman finalist
1x Pro Bowl
2011 AP Coach of the Year
Leads San Francisco 49ers to Super Bowl XLVII
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Sophandros
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Peyton is prob the BEST REGULAR season QB in NFL history, But SUCKS come playoff time.


If this is true, then why is his passer rating the same as Tom Brady's in the post season?


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If this is true, then why is his passer rating the same as Tom Brady's in the post season?

frick the TRUTH. POST IN all caps!!!1111!!


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Sophandros
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re: More Impressive: Harbaughs or Mannings
If you add Archie, then you have to add Jack Harbaugh:

LINK


Patrick_Bateman
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More Impressive: Harbaughs or Mannings

Which is bigger: 3 (Manning SB victories) or 1 (Harbaugh SB victories after 2/3)?


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Melvin
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well there would have been Cooper Manning.... who was the best out of the 3.... sooooo that should weigh in


Kafka
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If you add Archie, then you have to add Jack Harbaugh


And what if we add Cooper too?





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dukke v
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re: More Impressive: Harbaughs or Mannings
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If this is true, then why is his passer rating the same as Tom Brady's in the post season?


Stats don't mean shite in the NFL compared to Baseball. OK. Brady HAS drove teams down the field to WIN a SB. Peyton ??? Not so much.


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Eli:
2003 sec west co-champions

Peyton:
1997 should have won the heismen by the Knoxville press

Cooper:
Banged everyones girlfriend at ole miss
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Sophandros
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Stats don't mean shite in the NFL compared to Baseball. OK. Brady HAS drove teams down the field to WIN a SB. Peyton ??? Not so much.


1) If you want to argue that most traditional stats don't matter because of the team nature of football, then I would almost agree with you. HOWEVER,

2) If Vinatieri misses those field goals, is Brady any better or worse? Remember, Jim Kelly drove his team down the field against the Giants, only his kicker missed. If Norwood makes that field goal, is Kelly magically a better QB?

3) Peyton didn't have to drive his team down field on a game winning drive in his first SB appearance, and he lost to a better team in his second.

4) And that goes back to the original point here. You start off by saying that individual stats don't matter in judging a QB in the playoffs (presumably because it's a team sport), then how do you separate a QB's contribution for his TEAM'S accomplishment (which is what a SB win is). More importantly, in Brady's case his success is HIGHLY DEPENDENT on his kicker's ability to hit a field goal. He had to "drive" about 20 yards against the Rams to get them in position to win. Against the Panthers, he needed Kasay to kick off out of bounds, which set him up for a less than 30 yard drive to get in FG position to win the game. So are you telling me that Brady just willed those things to happen and that's why he's a better post season QB than Manning? Or is it because he had a better coach and a better team? Or is it because he had better matchups in the big games?

I contend that looking at a QB's stats in the post season are a better measure of how good of a post season QB that he is than merely looking at wins and losses, which are MUCH more reliant on other players, including two entire units of the team that the QB does not participate in. But that's just me.


dukke v
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Sophandros


Just to be fair.I realize that Brady has won some games by last minute heroics, But he STILL did it. I like the fact that I can argue that TerrBradshaw was a BETTER qb, Tell me I am wrong. He WON when it mattered...........


F machine
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re: More Impressive: Harbaughs or Mannings
Terry Bradshaw also had arguably the best d ever, so no, he's not better than Brady or manning. That's absurd.


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FootballNostradamus
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Just to be fair.I realize that Brady has won some games by last minute heroics, But he STILL did it. I like the fact that I can argue that TerrBradshaw was a BETTER qb, Tell me I am wrong. He WON when it mattered...........


Lol. Those Super Bowl teams Bradshaw won championships were some of the greatest squads of all-time. They're backups were better than many teams starters. Back before the salary cap era powerhouses like Pittsburgh used to stockpile talent like no one had ever seen. I love Bradshaw, but to say he's better than Brady or Manning is absurd.


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bayou2003
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Mannings. Some great talent


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