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Roaad 
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| re: Colin Powell is quite anti republican. (Posted on 1/21/13 at 1:38 pm to nobodytooimportant)
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his idea that only minorities are getting stuff from the government is laughable.
Who is saying or implying that? Please list the posters or pundits who are saying this, please.
I am talking about motivations in voting.
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BugAC
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| re: Colin Powell is quite anti republican. (Posted on 1/21/13 at 1:38 pm to trackfan)
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Therein lies the problem, too many Republicans think that all they have to do is have a few high-level, minority appointments to solve their race problem.
Yeah. If they want to "bridge" a minority gap. Then address why they are in the situation they are in. Don't promise them free shite. Promise them work and a wage. Allow the minority community to look within themselves and figure out the cause of their struggle. It's not the white man. The only people keeping black people down are themselves. The democrats aren't the full cause, they are the enabler. They tell the black community that they NEED handouts to survive, and that the deck is stacked against them. They they promise the handouts that they "need" as long as they get a few votes.
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Roaad
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| re: Colin Powell is quite anti republican. (Posted on 1/21/13 at 1:40 pm to BugAC)
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Promise them work and a wage.
Black people fared worse than whites in the previous 4 years. The guy opposing Obama was an established business owner who promised just that.
Blacks still voted 97% Obama.
Try again.
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DandyPimp
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| re: Colin Powell is quite anti republican. (Posted on 1/21/13 at 1:42 pm to nobodytooimportant)
I listened to him on morning joe today. This is what I took from the conversation which i think is worth considering from a republicans prospective.
He said that he worked in the Reagan Whitehouse as a national security advisor and that Reagan’s genius was communicating a vision for the entire country. His rhetoric did not divide, it sought to unite. He communicated the truth that a robust american economy benefited everyone and limited government intervention increased prosperity.
As a republican i acknowledge the truth of Romney's 47% argument but its cynical nature repels many in the country. Republicans need their own brand of "hope and change" to help sell the merits of their own program.
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MrCarton 
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| re: Colin Powell is quite anti republican. (Posted on 1/21/13 at 1:42 pm to nobodytooimportant)
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the "free stuff", is also known as the services the government provides. If the government didn't provide such things, then there would be no reason for it to exist.
Herp derp?
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nobodytooimportant
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| re: Colin Powell is quite anti republican. (Posted on 1/21/13 at 2:17 pm to Roaad)
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Black people fared worse than whites in the previous 4 years. The guy opposing Obama was an established business owner who promised just that.
You must be deluded if you believe Romney was talking to the entire country, especially after the 47% comments.
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Roaad
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| re: Colin Powell is quite anti republican. (Posted on 1/21/13 at 2:18 pm to nobodytooimportant)
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You must be deluded if you believe Romney was talking to the entire country
He was, at least as much as Obama with his "you didn't build that".
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constant cough 
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| re: Colin Powell is quite anti republican. (Posted on 1/21/13 at 2:19 pm to otowntiger)
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Colin Powell
Thug POS
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trackfan
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| re: Colin Powell is quite anti republican. (Posted on 1/21/13 at 2:25 pm to Roaad)
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The reason blacks vote dem is because of LBJ's GS
It was Civil Rights and the Southern Strategy, not the great society. Guys like Powell, Jindal, Michael Steele and JC Watts have told you what the problem is if you would only listen to them.
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Asians' and Jews' voting motivations are different.
So why have they turned against the Republicans? What about middle-class and upper-middle-class Blacks and Hispanics?
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redandright
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| re: Colin Powell is quite anti republican. (Posted on 1/21/13 at 2:49 pm to DandyPimp)
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that Reagan’s genius was communicating a vision for the entire country. His rhetoric did not divide, it sought to unite.
Then why does he support Obama who in the past week has accused the GOP of "holding a gun to the head of the American People", that they are "suspicious about government's commitement to make sure that seniors have decent health care as they get older.....They have suspicions about whether government should make sure that kids in poverty are getting enought to eat, or whether we should be spending money on medical research".
What's so unifying about that?
Colin Powell is a race hustler. It's just that he got to wear a way cool uniform. And to use the words of Harry Reid, when referring to another race hustler,"he doesn't speak with a Negro dialect".
The Democrats are welcome to him. He was only a Republican when he thought it could help him.
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Womski 
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| re: Colin Powell is quite anti republican. (Posted on 1/21/13 at 2:52 pm to Roaad)
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Nope.
We have to give blacks more free stuff than the dems.
That is the only way to get that voting demo. I wish I was being sarcastic. . .
Bro, there just aint that many blacks running around for that to be the Republican's problem.
Luckily the people who are actually in charge of the party know this.
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catnip
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| re: Colin Powell is quite anti republican. (Posted on 1/21/13 at 2:58 pm to SM6)
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Hes a moderate, not a staunch conservative
What does it make him when he agrees with every obama decision, an understander, a cooperator, a phoney, a socialist, a band wagoner, an idiot or all the above?
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LSUwag
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| re: Colin Powell is quite anti republican. (Posted on 1/21/13 at 2:59 pm to otowntiger)
He doesn't like white people. That man has major racial issues.
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tigersruledude
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| re: Colin Powell is quite anti republican. (Posted on 1/21/13 at 3:45 pm to SM6)
All you have to know about Colin Powell has been detailed in the last two elections when he endorsed Obama.
He claims to be a moderate....
...but he endorsed Obama over John McCain who is perhaps the most moderate candidate for President Republicans have run in a LOOOOOONG time. They dont get much more moderate Republican than McCain.
...but he endorses Obama.
Now maybe we give him a pass and understand that maybe he fell for the "hope and change" stuff. Its possible i guess. Maybe he thought that Obama was going to unite the country and all that garbage.
...but then you have the 1st four years of Obama. At no time did he attempt to be anything but an extreme partisan on every issue. He ramrodded thru legislation without a care in the world for unity. He for the most part didn't even try. He is very much a scorched earth kind of guy when it comes to that stuff. Certainly not a uniter of any kind. He mostly advocated very liberal positions and then continued most of the Bush foreign policy stuff he claimed to be against.
Then you have Powell endorsing Obama again.
There is not a Republican on earth that could watch Obama for the first four years and then vote for him and stay a Republican. You might not like Romney (who is still a pretty moderate Republican)...but there is just no way you are a Republican and a 2012 Obama supporter.
There are only two choices:
Powell either endorsed and supported Obama simply because he is African American.
or...
Powell is no longer a Republican (with the possibility that he never was one in the first place)
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ChineseBandit58
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| re: Colin Powell is quite anti republican. (Posted on 1/21/13 at 3:45 pm to nobodytooimportant)
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And this is why the republicans have trouble with blacks, the fact that you can't even see why what you just wrote is offensive to blacks.
So it is "offensive" to blacks for someone to point out how the DEMs use them for their votes and maneuver to keep them in a state of uneducated poverty?
Is it offensive to blacks that the GOP would like them to get jobs and lead productive lives?
Well, if that is the case, then screw em. Let them be offended.
If the only way we can avoid 'offending' them is to treat them like trash as the DEMs do, then to hell with the whole political system.
LBJ was right - he said "with this act we will have the n&&&&r vote forever." Be proud of that if you want.
Continue to use the third generation black children as your personal property. Do not allow them an education whereby they may escape your plantation of poverty and misery. And if by chance a few of them do, be sure to follow the DEM way by denigrating them, calling them 'Uncle TOM.'
But by all means do not 'offend' them.
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ChineseBandit58
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| re: Colin Powell is quite anti republican. (Posted on 1/21/13 at 3:51 pm to redandright)
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The Democrats are welcome to him. He was only a Republican when he thought it could help him.
He was never a Republican. He 'became' a GOP in order to get selected for the JCOS. He knew no DEM would ever appoint a black man to such a position of responsibility.
I am still very disappointed in him. I admired him in his position, but since he left, he has revealed himself to have a very hostile character. He is a race-hustler top notch and that is pathetic.
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trackfan
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| re: Colin Powell is quite anti republican. (Posted on 1/21/13 at 3:53 pm to tigersruledude)
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...but he endorsed Obama over John McCain who is perhaps the most moderate candidate for President Republicans have run in a LOOOOOONG time. They dont get much more moderate Republican than McCain.
Bush 41 would beg to differ.
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trackfan
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| re: Colin Powell is quite anti republican. (Posted on 1/21/13 at 4:00 pm to ChineseBandit58)
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He was never a Republican. He 'became' a GOP in order to get selected for the JCOS. He knew no DEM would ever appoint a black man to such a position of responsibility.
Do facts mean anything to you? FYI, Powell didn't join the Republican Party until a couple of years after he retired from the Army. Prior to that, he was an independent and no one had any idea what his political leanings were.
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The Cow Goes Moo Moo 
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| re: Colin Powell is quite anti republican. (Posted on 1/21/13 at 4:05 pm to Roaad)
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We have to give blacks more free stuff than the dems.
Sadly, you are correct. It's going to be a long, hard journey for Repubs to get any sort of minority support. The dems already have them locked down, no reason for them to switch to Repubs who want them to actually work for a living.
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trackfan
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| re: Colin Powell is quite anti republican. (Posted on 1/21/13 at 4:05 pm to ChineseBandit58)
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So it is "offensive" to blacks for someone to point out how the DEMs use them for their votes and maneuver to keep them in a state of uneducated poverty?
Is it offensive to blacks that the GOP would like them to get jobs and lead productive lives?
Well, if that is the case, then screw em. Let them be offended.
If the only way we can avoid 'offending' them is to treat them like trash as the DEMs do, then to hell with the whole political system.
LBJ was right - he said "with this act we will have the n&&&&r vote forever." Be proud of that if you want.
Continue to use the third generation black children as your personal property. Do not allow them an education whereby they may escape your plantation of poverty and misery. And if by chance a few of them do, be sure to follow the DEM way by denigrating them, calling them 'Uncle TOM.'
But by all means do not 'offend' them.
It must really suck being an Angry White Guy on MLK Day, especially when it coincides with Inauguration Day for a Black President.
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