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re: My kid is suddenly a HOCKEY FAN...(update-sort of)

Posted on 1/21/13 at 3:47 am to
Posted by Harry Caray
Denial
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 1/21/13 at 3:47 am to
Hockey is badass, especially to watch live. Bring your son to an icegators game, or whatever hockey team is the closest I guess.

PS minor leagues can be more interesting...more fights
This post was edited on 1/21/13 at 3:48 am
Posted by ironsides
Nashville, TN
Member since May 2006
8153 posts
Posted on 1/21/13 at 4:59 am to
4 basic rules will help a newbie enjoy:

1) can't try to hurt the other guy. If you do you go to the box and feel ashamed (unless you are asham). Maybe confusing to understand the definition of "try to hurt" at first

2) can't waste time by shooting the puck all the way down the ice (icing)

3) gotta give the goalie a chance so no cherry picking (hence offsides)

4) if you try to hurt the other teams star player you are almost obliged to drop the mitts and fight the other teams enforcer.
Posted by LSUCanFAN
In the past
Member since Jan 2009
28071 posts
Posted on 1/21/13 at 6:03 am to
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Make sure he becomes a Calgary Flames fan. If not he's doing it wrong IMO.

anddddddddd we found Baloo's alter....finally
Posted by LSUCanFAN
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Posted on 1/21/13 at 6:05 am to
These are surprisingly accurate
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 1/21/13 at 8:26 am to
I wouldn't worry too much about the rules when you first start watching. Just watch and you'll pick up a team on your own. Just don't let it be the Penguins unless you are a soulless front-runner.

The one rule you really do need to know is offside. That big blue line? The puck has to cross it before any offensive player can. And once you are in zone, if the puck crosses the blue line again, all of the offensive players have to leave and start over. Almost all tactics start with the blue line.

But ironsides' guide is pretty spot on. No hits from behind, stay on your feet, and don't use the stick as a weapon.
Posted by Buckeye Fan 19
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/21/13 at 8:32 am to
A good team for you/your son to cheer for is the Columbus Blue Jackets. We will be in first place after our game tonight and will probably win the Cup this year, but if you start cheering now, you won't have to say you're a bandwagon fan.
This post was edited on 1/21/13 at 8:33 am
Posted by Buckeye Fan 19
Member since Dec 2007
36159 posts
Posted on 1/21/13 at 8:35 am to
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I wouldn't worry too much about the rules when you first start watching. Just watch and you'll pick up a team on your own. Just don't let it be the Penguins unless you are a soulless front-runner.

The one rule you really do need to know is offside. That big blue line? The puck has to cross it before any offensive player can. And once you are in zone, if the puck crosses the blue line again, all of the offensive players have to leave and start over. Almost all tactics start with the blue line.

But ironsides' guide is pretty spot on. No hits from behind, stay on your feet, and don't use the stick as a weapon.


This. Hockey's a really easy sport to follow. Icing and offsides are basically the only rules you need to know, besides different penalties (and when a penalty occurs is normally pretty obvious, even if you know nothing about the game). I always laugh when people say they can never get into hockey because they don't know the rules, yet they're able to follow sports like baseball and football. Because those have much, much more simpler rules.
Posted by Baloo
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49645 posts
Posted on 1/21/13 at 8:38 am to
I tried to explain football to an Englishman one time. He had never seen a game, and we watch an LSU game together. I gave up by the second quarter and just told him to watch us hit people. Football is absurdly complex.
Posted by Buckeye Fan 19
Member since Dec 2007
36159 posts
Posted on 1/21/13 at 8:51 am to
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I tried to explain football to an Englishman one time. He had never seen a game, and we watch an LSU game together. I gave up by the second quarter and just told him to watch us hit people. Football is absurdly complex.


Basically all sports with "goals" are very easy for even the most casual fan to start watching (soccer, basketball, hockey, etc.). I know next to nothing about handball or water polo, but I can easily watch them in the Olympics. Sports like baseball, cricket, football (which I guess has a "goal", but so many rules that you need to understand to enjoy the game), etc., are very difficult to follow if you don't know the rules beforehand.
This post was edited on 1/21/13 at 8:53 am
Posted by ironsides
Nashville, TN
Member since May 2006
8153 posts
Posted on 1/21/13 at 9:33 am to
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These are surprisingly accurate


Thanks! When you're 50% canuck and 50% yankee and married to a cajun you either need to be able to simplify it for the family or give it up completely.

The other thing that is sometimes difficult to 'splain is that the obligation to fight can carry over from games / seasons between players which is why you see shite like you are going to see on 2/7 when the Rangers play the Islanders and someone from the Rangers puts Matt Carkner from the Islanders on a stretcher (assuming the piano on Carkner's back doesn't sink him down to the minors). Carkner jumped Brian Boyle (not the cleanest player either) twice in the playoffs last year (was playing for the Senators) and didn't even give him the chance to retaliate.

Now, back to who to root for - Here's a list of teams that will be on the tele most frequently

Can't go wrong with:
Blackhawks: 11 games on NBC / NBC Sports
Bruins: 11 games
Caps: 8 games (awesome watching Ovi no matter how much shite I give him on this board)
Sabres: 7 games
Kings: 7 games
St Louis: 7 games

Wouldn't touch the following teams because it'll suck to be a fan of:
Red Wings: 11 games

I am not allowed to comment on the following teams due to extreme passion / hate for them
Rangers: 13 games
Devils: 12 games
Penguins: 15 games
Flyers: 15 games

Teams I would want to watch but not enough games:
Tampa bay: 5 games
Phoenix: 3 games
Minnesota: 4 games

Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 1/21/13 at 9:51 am to
i feel bad for the guy having to watch a les miles coached team as his first game.
Posted by ironsides
Nashville, TN
Member since May 2006
8153 posts
Posted on 1/21/13 at 9:59 am to
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i feel bad for the guy having to watch a les miles coached team as his first game


You've obviously haven't seen the NY Rangers play this year if overpaid and underperforming is where you're going with that statement.

The Rangers remodeled Madison Square Garden this summer. It's evident that they made extra room in the locker room for all the pianos that are on the players backs because that's the only excuse for the way they are skating.

Apparently all of Lennay Kakuah's (sp?) are playing defense for the Rangers.
Posted by VirgilCaine
Orchard Park
Member since Dec 2010
2865 posts
Posted on 1/21/13 at 10:08 am to
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A good team for you/your son to cheer for is the Columbus Blue Jackets




quote:

will probably win the Cup this year






Prepare thyself.
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 1/21/13 at 10:18 am to
This is a good working list for the novice fan. Quick primer on each for the novice free agent fan:

Blackhawks: 11 games
Great defense, big named stars who are also young, fanatical fan base. Original Six team which counts for a lot. Honestly, can’t go wrong with the Hawks.

Bruins: 11 games
Tough, physical, and deep. If you like the “bad guys” who put the literal hurt on people, this is your team. Their star player is a 6’8” defenseman who almost paralyzed a guy. If you think that is an endorsement, this is your kind of team.

Caps: 8 games
Attacking hockey anchored by one of the game’s most exciting players. Speed, speed, and more speed. They are also the second most heart-breaking franchise to root for. They will lose, and it will hurt.

Sabres: 7 games
Ryan Miller. What else do you need to know? Great American goalie backstopping a very deep team of anonymous players. They are the bluest of blue collar teams.

Kings: 7 games
Defending Cup champs and a bit of a trendy team, but they have a great defense and an even better goalie. You’re probably signing up for a hangover, but this is a really good team even if they lack history.

St Louis: 7 games
A team so insanely deep that they have two great goalies. I think they have about ten guys who scored 20 goals. A team devoid of stars, but one of the few teams that has talent down to the last man. They win because all of their second and third liners are better than yours. They also are the most heartbreaking team to root for in hockey history.

Red Wings: 11 games
Old. Really frickin’ old. The dominant team of the past 20 years, but signing up now seems like signing up for the inevitable rebuild. Of course, they might have one more last gasp in ‘em.

Rangers: 13 games
Let’s not kid ourselves. The best team in hockey, on paper. They are from NYC, which is inherently obnoxious, but you are signing up for a loaded team that is gunning for the Cup.

Devils: 12 games
The most boring team in existence. They will finish as the sixth seed and advance to the Eastern conference finals. Like always. Brodeur’s gotta retire eventually.

Penguins: 15 games
The most bandwagon team in hockey. Being a new hockey fan and signing up for the Pens is like starting to watch the NBA and deciding to be a Heat fan.

Flyers: 15 games
This team is a cult. Deep, talented, physical… but this is a very “Philly” team. They don’t just wanna win, they wanna beat the crap out of you. BONUS: the terrible goalkeeping will keep you on the edge of your seat in every game. You have no idea the joy of rooting for a great team with a shaky goalie. It’s white knuckles to the extreme.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
31582 posts
Posted on 1/21/13 at 10:22 am to
Toews is the man
Posted by Augustus
North Carolina
Member since Sep 2006
8290 posts
Posted on 1/21/13 at 10:40 am to
I didn't get into hockey until 1997 when the Hurricanes moved down here. I really enjoy it now though. I go to a few games a year (best live sport in the world) and I get all the Canes games in HD on Fox Sports Carolinas. Being able to get all the games on TV of your favorite/local team really helps develop a connection with them, IMO.
Posted by shuke33
Under The Bridge
Member since Nov 2010
9052 posts
Posted on 1/21/13 at 10:43 am to
I would jump on the Edmonton bandwagon imo. That team is full of youth + speed it's just not fair.
Posted by 225bred
COYS
Member since Jun 2011
20386 posts
Posted on 1/21/13 at 1:22 pm to
Damn, thanks for that list, I've always watched the NHL playoffs but I want to follow the season a little deeper this year, Bruins are who I always pull for, and I also like Ryan Miller, who won me over in the Olympics a few years back
This post was edited on 1/21/13 at 1:24 pm
Posted by bamafan425
Jackson's Hole
Member since Jan 2009
25607 posts
Posted on 1/21/13 at 1:29 pm to
Don't Toews me, bro!
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 1/21/13 at 1:32 pm to
Well, ironsides did the legwork for how much they are on TV. I just expanded his list.

BTW -- tonight is Vinny Lecavalier's 1000th game. He's got to be one of the more universally liked players in the game, even in his prime, so it's a cool milestone for a guy who has labored in an obscure hockey market for his whole career. Give it up for the Bolts tonight.
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