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re: LSU's success at recruiting Louisiana | States of Georgia and Ohio added

Posted on 1/17/13 at 4:30 pm to
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 1/17/13 at 4:30 pm to
quote:

any other state I can use an example on?

New Jersey. They put out more talent than most people realize, and not a lot of it goes to Rutgers.
Posted by VermilionTiger
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Posted on 1/17/13 at 4:30 pm to
So:
LSU gets 55/90 - 61% SUCCESS RATE
Georgia gets 31/90 - 34% SUCCESS RATE
Ohio State gets 33/90 - 37% SUCCESS RATE
Posted by VermilionTiger
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Posted on 1/17/13 at 4:31 pm to
I could.. but its mainly about schools that are locking up most of their talent..not losing.
Posted by molsusports
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Posted on 1/17/13 at 4:32 pm to
I suspect when you pool Florida/FSU in Florida and Texas/Texas A&M in Texas their cumulative success will be similar to LSU's in Louisiana.

Ohio is a good one to mention FWIW - Ohio is a talent rich state with one major school that dominates their media. It is a fair comparison for LSU in several ways IMO
Posted by redfieldk717
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Posted on 1/17/13 at 4:32 pm to
Ohio is the best example because their RIVAL michigan takes players from there every year along with ND....id so comparitively speaking, lsu has louisiana on lockdown
Posted by VermilionTiger
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Posted on 1/17/13 at 4:35 pm to
Yep

With Louisiana surrounded by A&M, Auburn, Alabama, and Texas, which are all good recruiting schools, its amazing what Les...and what Saban accomplished.
Posted by redfieldk717
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Posted on 1/17/13 at 4:37 pm to
god damnit, i like this thread
Posted by VermilionTiger
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Posted on 1/17/13 at 4:41 pm to
Posted by brewhan davey
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Posted on 1/17/13 at 4:48 pm to
UGA never seems to be able to reel in the majority of top players in their state for some reason.
Posted by Keys Open Doors
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Posted on 1/17/13 at 4:49 pm to
Very useful and informative posts. Good work

A few years back, I did something similar with Alabama and Auburn, and I think Combined their rates were a bit higher than LSU's.
Posted by Cousin
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Posted on 1/17/13 at 4:53 pm to
Nice....Vermilion putting in work!
Posted by VermilionTiger
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Posted on 1/17/13 at 4:53 pm to
I guess doing states and using their combined percentage wouldn't be a bad idea.

Clemson and South Carolina
Michigan and Michigan State
Oregon and Oregon State
Ole Miss and Miss State
Posted by VermilionTiger
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Posted on 1/17/13 at 4:54 pm to
Just trying to calm the masses, brotha
Posted by jprice4608
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Posted on 1/17/13 at 4:57 pm to
Vermillion, thanks for the information. Finally someone using stats/facts, instead of their retarded opinions.
Posted by VermilionTiger
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Posted on 1/17/13 at 4:59 pm to
No prob my man
Posted by Mikeno
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Posted on 1/17/13 at 5:22 pm to
quote:

UGA never seems to be able to reel in the majority of top players in their state for some reason.


It's a very migrant state. While I agree with the op's premise -- that Les is doing/does a great job of getting the state's top players -- the comparison to UGa/Georgia isn't apples to apples. Especially when it's just a top 15 across the board.

LSU, imo, is in very unique recruiting situation, with regards to recruiting in the state of LA.
Posted by molsusports
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Posted on 1/17/13 at 5:36 pm to
quote:

I guess doing states and using their combined percentage wouldn't be a bad idea.

Clemson and South Carolina
Michigan and Michigan State
Oregon and Oregon State
Ole Miss and Miss State


I think USC/Clemson and Ole Miss/MSU are somewhat relevant

There's not enough grade A talent in Michigan and Oregon to really compare fairly to LSU's situation.

Florida/FSU
Texas/Texas A&M
Alabama/Auburn
MSU/Ole Miss
UGA/Ga Tech
USC/Clemson
Va Tech/Virginia

would be interesting since there's plenty of talent in those states (the top 15 is relevant)

Single States (talent rich states with only one major program) to compare directly to LSU are harder to find really

Louisiana - LSU
Ohio - tOSU

are fairly similar comparisons

Arkansas, Tennessee, Missouri, Minnesota, Connecticut etc are less relevant because even tho there is only one major college football program in the state there are not really the same numbers of outstanding college football prospects most years
This post was edited on 1/17/13 at 5:38 pm
Posted by oauron
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Posted on 1/17/13 at 6:08 pm to
What service are you using?
Posted by dgnx6
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Posted on 1/17/13 at 6:10 pm to
Atlanta has more people than the entire state of LA. Georgia is also home to only 2 d1 programs. One is in the sec and the other has academic restrictions and doesnt lure recruits in like it used to.

UGA and Mark Richt are annual underachievers.


Louisiana also gets bum rushed by every major program and for years LSU has had to fight off the big guys. Not every coach was able to do this.
This post was edited on 1/17/13 at 6:13 pm
Posted by TxTiger82
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Posted on 1/17/13 at 8:19 pm to
[quote]Louisiana top 15 2009:

LSU - 8
Alabama - 3
Tennessee - 1
Arkansas - 1
A&M - 2

Interesting breakdown but these numbers don't tell the whole story. Consider, for example, that Morris Claiborne (one of the two best players in the state, as it turned out, along with Rueben Randle) was not in the Top 15. He was a three star. I'm sure the same is true for Tyrann Mathieu.

The point is that coaching staff evaluations are the key, not the rivals.com Top 15.
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