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Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 1/10/13 at 1:52 pm to
He took a bad bottom ranked offense and by the end of his first year had them putting up alot of points. That was his only job. Period and it won them a SB.

Gruden is a good coach. Just a bad evaluator of talent.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
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Posted on 1/10/13 at 1:52 pm to
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Mike Tomlin

Is a great coach.

and the correct answer is Billick
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 1/10/13 at 1:53 pm to
With the exception of gruden, none of the coaches mentioned are really that good.
Posted by DallasTiger
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Posted on 1/10/13 at 1:53 pm to
Mike Ditka
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 1/10/13 at 1:54 pm to
quote:

Gruden is a good coach. Just a bad evaluator of talent.


bad evaluator and bad developer... i say you are bad if you can't do those things.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 1/10/13 at 1:55 pm to
John Gruden has a .540 winning percentage as a HC
Brian Billick has a .556 winning percentage as a HC
Dick Vermeil has a .524
Barry Switzer has a .625
George Seifert has a .648
Tom Coughlin has a .555
Bill Parcells has a .569
Mike Ditka has a .560
Tom Flores has a .538
Weeb Ewbank has a .502
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 1/10/13 at 1:55 pm to
Billick was bad at QB evaluation but over all was a decent coach. Hard to say on Tomlin, he took over a good, but old team.
Gruden is for sure a good coach. He built up the Raiders.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 1/10/13 at 1:57 pm to
You can be a coach and not make any front office decisions. That was his problem in TB. He and Bruce Allen ran everything.
Posted by genro
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Posted on 1/10/13 at 1:58 pm to
quote:

With the exception of gruden, none of the coaches mentioned are really that good.



Gruden may be the worst
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 1/10/13 at 1:59 pm to
i agree i think Bilick was pretty strong.

was a great OC in Minnesota so i dont think people cant say Balt not having a good offense was his fault. they didnt have a good QB.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 1/10/13 at 2:00 pm to
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You can be a coach and not make any front office decisions.



Being a QB guru, he really didn't guru shite.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 1/10/13 at 2:01 pm to
Billick has one of the best defenses ever for about a decade.

Rex Ryan
Marvin Lewis
Mike Singletary
Mike Nolan

All coached his defenses. He couldn't manage a game and couldn't get an offense to score 20 points despite being an "offensive genius" Baltimore has a great GM. So Billick looked better than he was. It's also telling he got zero interest upon firing despite desperately putting his name out there through his employer at the time NFLN
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 1/10/13 at 2:02 pm to
He coached a retread rich Gannon to an MVP. He made brad Johnson a good QB. He can coach up a QB. He just doesn't know what one looks like.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 1/10/13 at 2:03 pm to
Dennis green was always behind the offense in minny.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
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Posted on 1/10/13 at 2:17 pm to
Switzer and Billick are pretty close.
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/10/13 at 2:26 pm to
quote:


Is a great coach.

and the correct answer is Billick



I'm a Ravens fan. I don't think Billick was that good of a coach but he played a huge part in changing the culture of that team. A lot of people forget that the Ravens were absolutely awful before he got there and he turned them around immediately. Also, he did a brilliant job motivating the team and keeping them close together over the course of an up and down situation. I mean the team went five straight games without scoring a TD. The locker room could have easily fallen apart and imploded. Instead they became even more closely-knit and won 11 straight games to close out the season. Billick did a lot more for the team than just go along the road. The only possible correct answers to this question is Don McCafferty and Barry Switzer. Both coaches won Super Bowls with teams that were already built by the previous coach. All they had to do was not screw it up.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 1/10/13 at 2:31 pm to
quote:

I don't think Billick was that good of a coach


Then he belongs in this thread. There are only a handful of "not that good of a coach" coaches that have won it all

quote:

the team went five straight games without scoring a TD



Who oversaw the offense?

quote:

All they had to do was not screw it up.


The 2000 ravens offense's job description. Who oversaw that unit again?

Posted by josh336
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Posted on 1/10/13 at 2:33 pm to
We were close to having jim caldwell win a super bowl, he would have been the worst
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 1/10/13 at 2:36 pm to
so close

Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
33923 posts
Posted on 1/10/13 at 2:41 pm to
The Ravens offense actually wasn't even that bad that season. They just couldn't score TDs in the red zone because Tony Banks was one of the biggest frickups at QB I've ever seen. They were 14th in points scored and 16th in total offense. They put up better offensive numbers in the regular season than the 2002 Bucs and 2008 Steelers did. At least the Ravens had an elite rushing attack. Those two teams weren't good running or throwing the ball.
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