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re: No MLB players elected to the HOF
Posted on 1/9/13 at 4:28 pm to Lester Earl
Posted on 1/9/13 at 4:28 pm to Lester Earl
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Like I said the 3,000 is pretty much all he hangs his hat on
Yet, that is about 500 more hits than Ted Williams had in his 19 year career. And it has Biggio sitting 20th ALL TIME in career hits. How the hell does that not qualify as a superlative? Also, have you looked at his 1998 season? Any other year -- he makes MVP. He was top-5 in MVP votes what 3 or 4 times?
BTW - I do not advocate saying Biggio was a better baseball player than Ted Williams. Different ERAs, different game. I just used him as an example because the duration of their careers are very similar. Also - Biggio had 1,100+ BBs in his career. Ted Williams had over 2,200. WHOLY HELL that's a lot of walks!
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Posted on 1/9/13 at 4:33 pm to BuckToothBilly
Didn't Williams have 2 breaks in career so he didn't truly play 19 years? Or does that include the breaks?
Posted on 1/9/13 at 4:48 pm to BuckToothBilly
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Yet, that is about 500 more hits than Ted Williams had in his 19 year career.
That's my point the all time great players do not need to reach milestones (he has 500 HRs btw). The ones that do hit these milestones, almost always have other superlatives to back up their greatness.
Ted Williams won 2 MVPs and could have won 5 more. He was a 5x batting champ. He's arguably the best hitter of all time.
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And it has Biggio sitting 20th ALL TIME in career hits. How the hell does that not qualify as a superlative?
because its a number compiled over time. It doesnt pinpoint greatness at any one point in time in his career.
With all those hits, he never actually led the league in hits or batting average.
Looking at the top 20 hit leaders, Id say every player on the list has led the league in hits or has a batting title, except maybe Dave Winfield(#20 all time..he played forever) or Eddie Murray(who is 3k hit, 500 HR club)
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