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I Just Want to Make a Couple of Things Clear
Posted on 12/26/12 at 10:48 am
Posted on 12/26/12 at 10:48 am
1. LSU is in the SEC and is there to stay.
Both of Mr. Rabalais' articles in the Advocate were only meant to provide a 2-part series addressing the hypothetical arguments for both staying and leaving. However, because they came out a day apart, and the more taboo subject of leaving the SEC came out first, an uproar ensued among our fan base and throughout the other fan bases on this site.
That being said, the articles were unnecessary IMO, and have led the better majority of this board and the SEC rant to focus mainly on the first article, as to construe it as the voice of all LSU fans glorifying Alabama and whining about how life isn't fair for us.
LSU is a founding SEC member, and has too big of a following to abruptly leave its roots. Because of recent success, both internally at LSU and throughout the rest of the conference, an aura of greatness has been associated with the SEC, thus giving more credibility to the conference and allowing more room for error with regards to blemishes on our record. Essentially, the SEC has been given an "automatic bid" to the MNC with all its recent success. Not only has this helped establishing a brand of football that the rest of the country envies, but it has also helped in areas such as recruiting, in that star high school players from across the country strive to play in the best conference in the nation.
It would make no sense to leave the situation we are in.
2. "Dynasties" are cyclical in nature.
Those of you who consistently whine about Alabama, for a variety of reasons, while at the same time complain about how LSU is "second-fiddle," need to understand that success doesn't last forever.
It will be difficult for ANY coach to step and and replace Les Miles AND/OR Nick Saban. Because both coaches are nearing the age of retirement, the level of dominance sustained by both programs in the last few years will inevitably come to an end (though, not necessarily for a long period of time).
Exhibit A: Florida the few years after Spurrier.
Exhibit B: Alabama the few years after Bryant.
Point is, we can make all the excuses we want, the upper echelon of SEC teams will rotate soon enough, and our level of hate will rotate toward those teams that surface to the top.
Both of Mr. Rabalais' articles in the Advocate were only meant to provide a 2-part series addressing the hypothetical arguments for both staying and leaving. However, because they came out a day apart, and the more taboo subject of leaving the SEC came out first, an uproar ensued among our fan base and throughout the other fan bases on this site.
That being said, the articles were unnecessary IMO, and have led the better majority of this board and the SEC rant to focus mainly on the first article, as to construe it as the voice of all LSU fans glorifying Alabama and whining about how life isn't fair for us.
LSU is a founding SEC member, and has too big of a following to abruptly leave its roots. Because of recent success, both internally at LSU and throughout the rest of the conference, an aura of greatness has been associated with the SEC, thus giving more credibility to the conference and allowing more room for error with regards to blemishes on our record. Essentially, the SEC has been given an "automatic bid" to the MNC with all its recent success. Not only has this helped establishing a brand of football that the rest of the country envies, but it has also helped in areas such as recruiting, in that star high school players from across the country strive to play in the best conference in the nation.
It would make no sense to leave the situation we are in.
2. "Dynasties" are cyclical in nature.
Those of you who consistently whine about Alabama, for a variety of reasons, while at the same time complain about how LSU is "second-fiddle," need to understand that success doesn't last forever.
It will be difficult for ANY coach to step and and replace Les Miles AND/OR Nick Saban. Because both coaches are nearing the age of retirement, the level of dominance sustained by both programs in the last few years will inevitably come to an end (though, not necessarily for a long period of time).
Exhibit A: Florida the few years after Spurrier.
Exhibit B: Alabama the few years after Bryant.
Point is, we can make all the excuses we want, the upper echelon of SEC teams will rotate soon enough, and our level of hate will rotate toward those teams that surface to the top.
This post was edited on 12/26/12 at 10:58 am
Posted on 12/26/12 at 11:03 am to YouAre8Up
so we'll be just as unhappy with the offense after LM is gone?
Posted on 12/26/12 at 11:05 am to brewhan davey
Why do we have to be rational? We're just fans of an amateur football team on an anonymous Internet message board with nothing else to do. Nothing we say here matters.
Posted on 12/26/12 at 11:05 am to brewhan davey
If LSU had a real AD we wouldn't even begin to discuss this stuff.
He allowed the league to get away with the shitty 2013 scheduling as well as let them protect others teams in bowls this year which left LSU in a lesser bowl.
He allowed the league to get away with the shitty 2013 scheduling as well as let them protect others teams in bowls this year which left LSU in a lesser bowl.
Posted on 12/26/12 at 11:10 am to long4life
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so we'll be just as unhappy with the offense after LM is gone?
What? Les isn't going anywhere for a looooooong time.
Posted on 12/26/12 at 11:27 am to dandan
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He allowed the league to get away with the shitty 2013 scheduling as well as let them protect others teams in bowls this year which left LSU in a lesser bowl.
If you look at how the chips fell into play this year, you'll see that it was just an exceptional year as far as bowl selection goes.
SEC champ goes to the MNC.
SEC Runner-Up surpassed by an 11-1 team (whose only loss was to them, but played a much more difficult schedule) and gets the Capital One Bowl
#3 team (UF) gets the Sugar Bowl
#4 team should have been us, but the Cotton Bowl decided they would rather take an in-state team with a Heisman trophy winning QB (can you blame them?)
#5 team should have been us in that case, but the Outback Bowl hasn't taken a team from the West since 1996.
So we fell to #6.
Posted on 12/26/12 at 12:10 pm to brewhan davey
Bump for the posters still angrily replying to SPEEDY's thread
Posted on 12/26/12 at 12:11 pm to brewhan davey
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brewhan davey
Would you please just post a daily blog. Excellent post, as usual.
Posted on 12/26/12 at 12:14 pm to brewhan davey
You sir are correct!
Posted on 12/26/12 at 12:24 pm to brewhan davey
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brewhan davey
tl;dr
its not you, its me
Posted on 12/26/12 at 12:40 pm to PhiTiger1764
I agree that LSU is not leaving the SEC but if more attention is placed on this by legitimate sources then people will stop thinking its LSU paranoia and whinnning. Maybe just Maybe the SEc will stop intentionally screwing LSUl.
Posted on 12/26/12 at 1:03 pm to NorthTiger
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Would you please just post a daily blog. Excellent post, as usual.
Wow.. what a compliment. I appreciate it man. I have stayed away from the rant lately due to the utter insanity of the posts concerning the Chik-Fil-A Bowl bid, the obsession with Alabama/Nick Saban and the witch-hunt theories, but I'll be making a comeback slowly and steadily.
Posted on 12/26/12 at 1:57 pm to brewhan davey
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Both of Mr. Rabalais' articles in the Advocate were only meant to provide a 2-part series addressing the hypothetical arguments for both staying and leaving.
Link?
If this is what The Advocate meant to do, then they communicated this very, very poorly.
They should have done it the way USA Today does with the opposing viewpoints on opposite pages or opposite sides of the same page.
Regardless, Rabalais' article is complete garbage. If the Big 12 was so fricking awesome, then why did A&M leave? He wants to escape the shadow of Bama by moving into the shadow of Texas and league offices in Dallas? We would just replace A&M as the crybaby whiny bitches of the Big XII. Also Rabalais doesn't even consider writing his crybaby bitchfest of an article if LSU finished our final drive off with a touchdown instead of another field goal attempt after 3 straight runs that went nowhere. The REC isn't to blame for that loss. We had our shot and didn't finish them off. Spilled milk. In Rabalais' case, spilled mama's titty milk.
Posted on 12/26/12 at 1:58 pm to brewhan davey
Agree...LSU should not leave the SEC.
I, however, think you are missing the point...It's not penis envy but rather a TRUE ADVANTAGE that Alabama has been getting in scheduling since the days of the Bear. You never saw Alabama have back to back to back games against the very good conference teams like used to happen to Florida for years (one reason they didn't win a conference championship before Spurrier became coach there). Many times Alabama had a break (open date) before a really big, big game. I know....they were smart to schedule that way. You don't think USCe wouldn't like a little of that Alabama magic? Surely the SEC (located in Alabama...with many key alumni involved)can schedule better than they have.
I,personally, think there are more than just LSU fans that SEE what has been going on for years.
Please in the future don't talk down to the people that see it different than you do.
I, however, think you are missing the point...It's not penis envy but rather a TRUE ADVANTAGE that Alabama has been getting in scheduling since the days of the Bear. You never saw Alabama have back to back to back games against the very good conference teams like used to happen to Florida for years (one reason they didn't win a conference championship before Spurrier became coach there). Many times Alabama had a break (open date) before a really big, big game. I know....they were smart to schedule that way. You don't think USCe wouldn't like a little of that Alabama magic? Surely the SEC (located in Alabama...with many key alumni involved)can schedule better than they have.
I,personally, think there are more than just LSU fans that SEE what has been going on for years.
Please in the future don't talk down to the people that see it different than you do.
This post was edited on 12/26/12 at 2:01 pm
Posted on 12/26/12 at 2:00 pm to BrerTiger
quote:
Link?
If this is what The Advocate meant to do, then they communicated this very, very poorly.
I'm not exactly sure if they had intended to do it this way; I live in New Orleans, so I don't read the Advocate every day. That's how I took it, though; because the two articles came out on separate days, it led to a LOT of confusion.
quote:
They should have done it the way USA Today does with the opposing viewpoints on opposite pages or opposite sides of the same page.
This is exactly how I would have done it. But, the fact that he felt the need to make this argument at all was unnecessary.
Posted on 12/26/12 at 2:01 pm to LSUDonMCO
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I agree that LSU is not leaving the SEC but if more attention is placed on this by legitimate sources then people will stop thinking its LSU paranoia and whinnning.
Yeah, one article by Scott Rabalais who lives inside the bubble that is Baton Rouge is going to change perception of people who don't live inside said bubble.
Look, the whining about the bowl game placement is a semi-legit gripe. LSU didn't get such bowl game consideration in 2005 when we lost to UGA in the SECCG.
But all the rest of the whining is garbage. Rabalais is a giant bleeding vagina.
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