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Article on 247 - "Trying to be Positive About the Eric Gordon Situation"

Posted on 12/16/12 at 11:28 am
Posted by tehchampion140
Member since Sep 2010
18892 posts
Posted on 12/16/12 at 11:28 am
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Bash me all you want, but I think it does a good job of summing up the situation so far. It's worth a read, but it basically says that bad PR can be to blame for a lot of unnecessary hate, and although Gordon playing is the only way to win over the angry fans, it's better to hold him out to get him to 100% rather than rushing him back to appease them.
Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2007
65256 posts
Posted on 12/16/12 at 11:38 am to
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but it basically says that bad PR can be to blame for a lot of unnecessary hate
didn't read the article but i wouldn't necessarily say a lot of it. i think a lot of it comes from the fact that he played only a handful of games last year then we throw a max deal at him then he remains injured and still has not played. lack of production is more to blame than bad PR imo
This post was edited on 12/16/12 at 11:38 am
Posted by tehchampion140
Member since Sep 2010
18892 posts
Posted on 12/16/12 at 11:39 am to
That's definitely to blame as well, but neither the organization nor Gordon has done enough to help the fans understand the situation.
Posted by quail man
New York, NY
Member since May 2010
41251 posts
Posted on 12/16/12 at 11:42 am to
it's an epic clusterfrick of things that came together to form this shite storm. no one factor was more important than the other.
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
11419 posts
Posted on 12/16/12 at 12:54 pm to
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Bash me all you want


Thanks for the permission because this is a pathetic attempt at a guilt trip. So the fans are to blame? We should be more positive? What is there to be positive about? I tell you what, I will forever get off Gordon's case if you can tell me exactly what his injury is (not just a bad knee, the specific injury) and the status of his rehabilitation. That's all you have to do.. please..

To show you how big of a cluster it is. I am a huge RG3 fan (and Redskin fan). A day after his injury the team put out a report that "Griffin has a mild, or Grade 1, sprain of the lateral collateral ligament located on the outside of the knee". I have never heard a report on Gordon's knee other than it's hurt and now that his quad is weak. What are they being so secretive about?
Posted by marchballer
The Greatest Country on Earth
Member since Aug 2008
4121 posts
Posted on 12/16/12 at 1:00 pm to
No matter what happened no team wants to see their star player play only 9 games in a year and a half. No matter what the PR department said, fans would be upset no matter what.
Posted by tehchampion140
Member since Sep 2010
18892 posts
Posted on 12/16/12 at 1:45 pm to
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Thanks for the permission because this is a pathetic attempt at a guilt trip

What?
I posted an article from 247 saying that fans should try to be patient instead of getting angry. How in the hell did you see it as a guilt trip?
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So the fans are to blame?

No and please quote where I or the article say that.
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What is there to be positive about?

Gordon was the first to show up and last to leave at all of the voluntary workouts. He has said nothing but good things about the organization since the free agent fiasco. He showed up to the game in LA to support his team and actively cheered with them on the bench. He's been positive and engaged about the team on Twitter all season. The only thing he's done wrong is not play, and that isn't being done willingly.
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I will forever get off Gordon's case if you can tell me exactly what his injury is (not just a bad knee, the specific injury) and the status of his rehabilitation

I don't think any of us know a specific injury, but we were told recently that his quad atrophied, which is common after knee injuries, and that's the main thing that he's been rehabbing in LA. Reports are suggesting that he should be back by the end of December but I'm not sure if that is a solid timeline. We never know with the timeframes this organization gives us.
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
11419 posts
Posted on 12/16/12 at 2:08 pm to
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How in the hell did you see it as a guilt trip?


Obviously this writer is trying to change/alter public and fan reaction to Gordon. He keeps saying we need to get positive, so that must mean we have been negative. He does this by brushing aside the history and trying to focus on the future. While that is an admirable thing, it just isn't realistic. Nothing changes until he plays and even then there will be hard feelings.

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Gordon was the first to show up and last to leave at all of the voluntary workouts


You have no way of knowing this, period. There are guys that have said it, but they didn't take attendance and I'm sure others would take exception. It's nice spin, but playing pick up ball over the summer doesn't mean dick anyway.

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He has said nothing but good things about the organization since the free agent fiasco.


Wow, he hasn't bad mouthed his employer publically in 4 months. That's awesome.

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He showed up to the game in LA to support his team and actively cheered with them on the bench


That is so great that he took 3 hours out of his day to watch a basketball game with the team that's paying him 14m this year.

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He's been positive and engaged about the team on Twitter all season.


I can't even be sarcastic about this. I could care less and he could probably be fined or suspended (or just mocked since he's injured) for being anything but positive. .

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The only thing he's done wrong is not play, and that isn't being done willingly.


Then why don't we wait until he gets on the court before we try changing our perception of him. He'll have every chance to win everybody over then.

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I don't think any of us know a specific injury


That is a huge problem for me. I can't trust anything that is coming out then. The time frame is over, he was supposed to be back now. Where is he? Another setback. It's just funny now.

I seriously feel awful for you. I know how much you really believe in the guy and fight for him. But this just sucks. It has from the beginning.
Posted by BIGDAB
Go for the Jugular
Member since Jun 2011
7468 posts
Posted on 12/16/12 at 2:58 pm to
After a month of him on the court and playing well, you won't hear much belly aching.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 12/16/12 at 3:16 pm to
First, tools

Second, I love how much Eric Gordon bothers some of these people. Then through self-important exercises, they are fabricating their own remedies like the organization somehow values their input. The Trade Machine is overheating.
This post was edited on 12/16/12 at 4:14 pm
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
25739 posts
Posted on 12/16/12 at 3:27 pm to
I actually had a dream last night where I was talking to EG and he was being so sensitive. I was so frustrated in the dream. Then I woke up and had to laugh. Life as a fan
Posted by tehchampion140
Member since Sep 2010
18892 posts
Posted on 12/16/12 at 3:31 pm to
Damn and I'm supposed to be the one obsessed with Gordon.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
72170 posts
Posted on 12/16/12 at 5:17 pm to
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Thanks for the permission because this is a pathetic attempt at a guilt trip. So the fans are to blame? We should be more positive? What is there to be positive about? I tell you what, I will forever get off Gordon's case if you can tell me exactly what his injury is (not just a bad knee, the specific injury) and the status of his rehabilitation. That's all you have to do.. please..

To show you how big of a cluster it is. I am a huge RG3 fan (and Redskin fan). A day after his injury the team put out a report that "Griffin has a mild, or Grade 1, sprain of the lateral collateral ligament located on the outside of the knee". I have never heard a report on Gordon's knee other than it's hurt and now that his quad is weak. What are they being so secretive about?






Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 12/16/12 at 5:28 pm to
Keep on whining about him. It's endearing.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
80564 posts
Posted on 12/16/12 at 6:45 pm to
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lack of production is more to blame than bad PR imo

No his terrible PR while not playing is the problem. Personally I'm not even going to worry about what he's said in the past anymore, I'm just going to wonder if he gets to 20 games played for the Hornets before he gets to 100 games missed.
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
29763 posts
Posted on 12/17/12 at 9:23 am to
Can someone explain to us how someone who has not played organized professional basketball in almost 2 years will jump back on the court and wind up becoming the next Michael Jordan? I don't see it ever happening with EG10. I think EG's 10 seconds of fame are up as far as being a NBA player.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 12/17/12 at 9:35 am to
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So the fans are to blame?


I blame the PR side of this mess on Demps and Monty. Yes Gordon is seemingly incapable of saying the right thing, but if he's your star player you get him PR help. The franchise appears to have a distant relationship with Gordon, not something you'd expect for one of your core pieces and best players.

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I have never heard a report on Gordon's knee other than it's hurt and now that his quad is weak. What are they being so secretive about?


We still don't know the name of the doctor that gave him the magical rehab program that should have him playing any day now. There are so many little things that are off about this situation and I can't comprehend why Demps and Monty won't clean up this mess. One plausible answer would be Gordon's an arse that they plan to trade, but the team clearly seems to be built around Gordon's skill set and trading Jack suggests that Demps was expecting Gordon to play this season. This whole situation is just baffling.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 12/17/12 at 9:36 am to
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Can someone explain to us how someone who has not played organized professional basketball in almost 2 years will jump back on the court and wind up becoming the next Michael Jordan?


Did you not watch him in the 9 games he did play last season? In that short stretch of games he lived up to the hype about his talent and one of the worst teams in the league won 67% of their games with Gordon playing.
This post was edited on 12/17/12 at 9:38 am
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 12/17/12 at 9:40 am to
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I blame the PR side of this mess on Demps and Monty.


Monty definitely made the situation a lot worse (publically) with his comments.

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Yes Gordon is seemingly incapable of saying the right thing, but if he's your star player you get him PR help.

He seems to say little and speaks from the hip when he does, which leads to a lot of hand wringing.

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We still don't know the name of the doctor that gave him the magical rehab program that should have him playing any day now. There are so many little things that are off about this situation and I can't comprehend why Demps and Monty won't clean up this mess. One plausible answer would be Gordon's an arse that they plan to trade, but the team clearly seems to be built around Gordon's skill set and trading Jack suggests that Demps was expecting Gordon to play this season. This whole situation is just baffling.


Yup, as such, I'll wait and see. No point in getting all worked up about something totally outside of my control.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
80564 posts
Posted on 12/17/12 at 12:35 pm to
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Yes Gordon is seemingly incapable of saying the right thing, but if he's your star player you get him PR help.

Jesus Christ the excuses people make for this guy are ridiculous. This isn't a high school kid who's getting in front of a microphone for the 1st time.
This post was edited on 12/17/12 at 12:39 pm
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