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Home made sushi? Any advice?

Posted on 12/15/12 at 11:02 pm
Posted by NATidefan
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Posted on 12/15/12 at 11:02 pm
We just got a Publix in town. Yay! And I've heard you can get stuff to make sushi from there (seaweed, rice, etc) But I'm wondering about the raw fish, shrimp, etc. From what I've read online there really is no such thing as sushi grade seafood. It has more to do with getting "fresh" fish and then making sure it's been frozen at -4 degrees F or below for at least 7 days to kill any parasites.

Does anyone make sushi at home? Any advice?
Posted by LSU fan 246
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Posted on 12/16/12 at 12:02 am to
not worth the hassle
Posted by Matisyeezy
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Posted on 12/16/12 at 12:06 am to
What Jones said. That is the one thing that's just so much easier and just as cost-efficient to eat out. We started out thinking it was going to be a fun date night. It ended with both of us pissed off and sitting on opposite ends of the couch and me secretly plotting to smother her in her sleep
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 12/16/12 at 12:10 am to
I may be wrong, but from what I´ve seen, in Atlanta, you haven´t what you need to make sushi.

Maybe in a coastal town which fishes, but then, you need the proper control and hygiene (HAACP).

I´d say, impossible.
This post was edited on 12/16/12 at 12:12 am
Posted by joey barton
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Posted on 12/16/12 at 12:15 am to
I haven't tried, but I'm sure that you could find the requisite materials along Buford Highway
Posted by NATidefan
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Posted on 12/16/12 at 12:37 am to
My friends and I went out tonight and spent 60 dollars on 6 rolls and two beers. After tip it was probably 75 dollars. Surely we could make 6 rolls and buy 2 beers for less than 75 dollars.
Posted by NATidefan
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Posted on 12/16/12 at 12:42 am to
To add, I probably wouldn't make this for just me and another at home. My two best friends are cooks and along with our wives and GFs we could get together and do this once a month or so, so it's not like we would waste a bunch of stuff.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 12/16/12 at 1:21 am to
quote:

My friends and I went out tonight and spent 60 dollars on 6 rolls and two beers. After tip it was probably 75 dollars. Surely we could make 6 rolls and buy 2 beers for less than 75 dollars.


you might come out a little cheaper but you wont have the same type of food that a sushi chef can make.

6 different rolls would take a good amount of ingredients. kind of a sample of everything you might need to make them


main ingredients:
tuna
salmon
red snapper
shrimp
imitation crab

secondary:
sticky rice(can be a pain to work with)
seaweed paper
cucumber
avocado
sesamee seeds
sriracha
soy sauce
wasabi
sushi roller

And that would be some pretty boring arse rolls even though its a dozen or so ingredients. its really not worth it although it could be a fun thing to do once. its better to just let the sushi chef who has been properly trained do it for you
Posted by Matisyeezy
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Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 12/16/12 at 3:13 am to
quote:

Surely we could make 6 rolls and buy 2 beers for less than 75 dollars


Yeah, probably, but if you start talking about rolls with a variety of different fishes, sushi-grade stuff actually adds up a lot quicker than you might expect. And again like Jones says, you start adding in all the ingredients you'd need to give any kind of diversity to a few different rolls and that adds up too.

But that's not really the kicker. The kicker for me is that you're gonna stand in the kitchen for too damn long, you're gonna bust your arse prepping all of the ingredients, and when you finally put them all together odds are good it's gonna come out looking like the late Christopher Reeve was your sushi chef the first time, and possibly even the next few as well. But at least you probably got more than two beers to mellow you out

If you want to give it a shot nothing we say will stop you, I just personally think it's far more trouble than it's worth. By a large margin.
Posted by CITWTT
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Posted on 12/16/12 at 5:19 am to
My only suggestion is to ask the fishmonger to smell the fish before purchase.
Posted by Tigerfan53
Death Valley
Member since Nov 2010
3168 posts
Posted on 12/16/12 at 5:19 am to
I make my own from time to time. It is cheaper but a lot of preparation. Also one tip is to make the spicy Mayo use mayo that Asian hot sauce and a couple drops of soy sauce. Pretty good.
Posted by Stadium Rat
Metairie
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 12/16/12 at 6:21 am to
I've made crawfish sushi and some with the fake crabmeat and cooked shrimp, but never anything completely raw. I don't think you're supposed to eat shrimp raw, due to parasite risk. For anything raw, it needs to have been deep frozen for a while, as stated above.
Posted by futuretigermom
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Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 12/16/12 at 6:38 am to
When preparing the rice (w/ the vinegar) make sure you keep it moving and you evenly distribute it. If you don't it will clump and be hard. It may take a few tries to get the proper texture but after you master it it's pretty easy. Oh, make sure you use rice vinegar not rice wine vinegar.
This post was edited on 12/16/12 at 6:39 am
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
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Posted on 12/16/12 at 8:16 am to
You could probably make 5-8 rolls with One slab of fish and the other ingredients for about 20-25$ at the very most. Probably half that if you use crab stick or boiled shrimp. Making your own sushi is so much cheaper it's not even funny .

It's very easy once you get used to rolling. I would start with some boiled shrimp or crab stick to test first, you don't want to buy a beautiful piece of fish just to butcher it in your first try. I've made quite a bit recently and just used a salmon steak from Whole Foods. She recommended I pan sear it so that's what u did. Got a pan screaming hot, dropped it din fr a few seconds in each side.
Also the biggest key is having a very sharp knife. You'll end up smashing the roll more than cutting it if not.


The main reason I started making it is Bc my GF can't eat it so I hardly ever get to go unless its by myself for lunch. Also, it's a pretty cool party idea to invite a couple friends over.
This post was edited on 12/16/12 at 8:18 am
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
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Posted on 12/16/12 at 8:23 am to
If you're ok with a knife in the kitchen it's really not as hard as most if the people in here are making it out to be. Obviously it will take a couple tries, but it's pretty awesome and satisfying to know you can make your own.
Ingredients really aren't that expensive at all. Fresh veggies are dirt cheap. Short grain rice is dirt cheap. The seaweed is probably 5$ for a pack of 10 sheets. I mean really the only "pricy" thing is what you decide to put in it. A pack of 8 crab sticks is like 3$ but a salmon steak might run you 11$.
Hypothetically you could make rolls for like 2$ or less a pop.
Posted by tewino
Member since Aug 2009
2530 posts
Posted on 12/16/12 at 10:52 am to
I've done it too. Not that hard. You need a bamboo roller. Most of the paraphernalia and ingredients (excluding fish) can be found MUCH cheaper at the Asian market - like Vin Phat.


As for fish, just get the freshest you can get. I've never seared or cooked anything. Just raw baby.
Never did shrimp though as I don't care for it with sushi. I stuck with fresh tuna, salmon and grouper and the fake crab sticks. Start with California rolls to get the hang of it.
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 12/16/12 at 10:53 am to
Thanks for all the advice.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 12/16/12 at 12:43 pm to
quote:

You could probably make 5-8 rolls with One slab of fish and the other ingredients for about 20-25$ at the very most. Probably half that if you use crab stick or boiled shrimp. Making your own sushi is so much cheaper it's not even funny


Cheaper but the quality isnt as good and the diversity of the rolls is going to be minimal. 5-8 rolls with one slab of fish. 6 different types of tuna rolls doesnt sound that great and there is now way you are making 5-8 rolls for $10-12 unless you have most of the ingredients already.

quote:

I've made quite a bit recently and just used a salmon steak from Whole Foods. She recommended I pan sear it so that's what u did. Got a pan screaming hot, dropped it din fr a few seconds in each side.
Also the biggest key is having a very sharp knife.


Why did she recommend you cook it first? Is there fish not up to the FDA recommendations for eating it raw?


quote:

Ingredients really aren't that expensive at all. Fresh veggies are dirt cheap.


They might not be expensive by themselves but when you need a dozen different things it can add up.


quote:

Short grain rice is dirt cheap. The seaweed is probably 5$ for a pack of 10 sheets. I mean really the only "pricy" thing is what you decide to put in it. A pack of 8 crab sticks is like 3$ but a salmon steak might run you 11$.
Hypothetically you could make rolls for like 2$ or less a pop.


Hmmm

Sushi rice-$2
Seaweed-$5
Crab-$3
Thats $10 and would make 5 rolls?

Add the salmon in and you are at $21. Youre still missing a lot of stuff to even make the most simplest of rolls.

Bamboo roller($2)
Rice wine vinegar to make the rice.($3)
Avocado($1)
Cucumber($1)
soy sauce($2)
wasabi($1)

Just made up some prices of the items. Went cheap on the items but if youre shopping at Whole Foods, nothing is dirt cheap. Add those few items in and we are at $31. Basically we have a california roll and a salmon roll. Kinda boring

To really make some good rolls with this base set of ingredients, you would need to buy another $30-40 of stuff. Hopefully he also has an extremely sharp knife already.

The experience would be fun(could be really frustrating also) and something new to try but I wouldnt think of it as eating cheaper. Over time the price could even out a little because you would have all the core items already(rice, rice wine,rollers,soy sauce, wasabi,etc). Sounds like you have all the necessary items besides what you want in the rolls so your trips to the grocery probably arent that bad


Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
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Posted on 12/16/12 at 1:02 pm to
Well...sorry I didn't break it down like that. But I did already have the stuff.

quote:

Cheaper but the quality isnt as good and the diversity of the rolls is going to be minimal. 5-8 rolls with one slab of fish. 6 different types of tuna rolls doesnt sound that great and there is now way you are making 5-8 rolls for $10-12 unless you have most of the ingredients already.

If you think homemade sushi is going to be the same quality as in a sushi restaurant then you have pretty damn high expectations
To me its more about the experience and trying something new. It's obviously not going to be incredible the first time you make it.
The cheaper rolls I've made only have say cucumber, avocado, asparagus, a little carrot and a crab stick. That's about the cheapest to make. Obviously if you get fish and whatnot the price goes up. The slab of salmon I got last time was 11$ and I could have at the very least easily made 5 rolls out of it.

quote:

Why did she recommend you cook it first? Is there fish not up to the FDA recommendations for eating it raw?

I guess it was just their way of protecting themselves. I didn't think about freezing it though. That's probably the best way to do it.

quote:

They might not be expensive by themselves but when you need a dozen different things it can add up.

Well. I can guarantee you can get all of the veggies for less than 5$.
A bag of rice probably costs maybe 5$ at the most and that will last you a damn long time. Like I said earlier seaweed is about 5$ for 10 sheets. Then at that point you're just looking at the cost of the main ingredient.


Like I said, there is a bit of an initial investment which costs around maybe 10-15$ to get started. I guarantee you'd save a lot. I know one sushi trip for a couple of people will at least be 30-40$. Say you go get sushi twice. You can make sushi yourself probably 5-8 times (depending on your main ingredient) the cost it takes to go out to eat twice
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36787 posts
Posted on 12/16/12 at 1:05 pm to
I've read salmon can be risky cause its partly a fresh water fish, so that's probably why they recommended to sear it.

If me and my friends try it, I'll let y'all know what it costs, what we made, and posts some pics. It'll probably be January at least before we do it though.
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