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Bryon Bojengles III  LSU Fan Member since Nov 2012 5128 posts
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| re: Players are free!!! All player discipline vacated. (Posted on 12/11/12 at 12:24 pm to THRILLHO)
But they keeping draft picks...
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kclsufan  New Orleans Saints Fan Show Me Member since Jun 2008 10049 posts

| re: Players are free!!! All player discipline vacated. (Posted on 12/11/12 at 12:24 pm to TigerinATL)
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So he frees the players since they can fight back and throws the front office under the bus.
I think you nailed it.
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MFn GIMP  LSU Fan Somerset, Kentucky Member since Feb 2011 7016 posts

| re: Players are free!!! All player discipline vacated. (Posted on 12/11/12 at 12:24 pm to Patrick O Rly)
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Done. This interesting to me. How is he going to affirm Goodell findings and totally undo his punishments? It seems like he's talking out of both sides of his mouth.
I was just typing something like this. It makes no sense.
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Breesus  New Orleans Saints Fan House of the Rising Sun Member since Jan 2010 15526 posts
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| re: Players are free!!! All player discipline vacated. (Posted on 12/11/12 at 12:24 pm to TigerinATL)
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So he frees the players since they can fight back and throws the front office under the bus. Probably the best exit strategy for the league but it also probably means we won't be getting our pick back
This thread is ripe with discussion and Vilma and Smith have been free for a while, the emoticons need to stop and people need to read. The damage is done for the season, so he gave us 2 old washed up guys back. And he further said his ruling has nothing to do with the Saints' organization and the players and coached contaminated the process. Calm down people. We arent out the woods yet.
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Neauxla  New Orleans Saints Fan New Orleans Member since Feb 2008 23888 posts
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| re: Players are free!!! All player discipline vacated. (Posted on 12/11/12 at 12:24 pm to Patrick O Rly)
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However, this entire case has been contaminated by the coaches and others in the Saints' organization."
They don't care about the players. Losing our coach crippled us enough and his "decision" backed up the Goodell was "right"
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sunnydaze  New Orleans Saints Fan over the hills Member since Jan 2010 12182 posts

| re: Players are free!!! All player discipline vacated. (Posted on 12/11/12 at 12:25 pm to Patrick O Rly)
Free SP
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Putty  LSU Fan Member since Oct 2003 20068 posts

| re: Players are free!!! All player discipline vacated. (Posted on 12/11/12 at 12:25 pm to Patrick O Rly)
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My affirmation of Commissioner Goodell's findings could certainly justify...the issuance of fines. However, this entire case has been contaminated by the coaches and others in the Saints' organization."
sounds like a chicken shite escape strategy for the league while still trying to create a factual basis to protect Goodell from Vilma's defamation suit and protect NFL from organizational backlash due to the bull shite imposed on the Saints. Color me unsatisfied.
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Breesus  New Orleans Saints Fan House of the Rising Sun Member since Jan 2010 15526 posts
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| re: Players are free!!! All player discipline vacated. (Posted on 12/11/12 at 12:26 pm to L.A.)
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Does this mean we get our draft picks back?
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My affirmation of Commissioner Goodell's findings could certainly justify...the issuance of fines. However, this entire case has been contaminated by the coaches and others in the Saints' organization.
I'd guess no.
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rantfan  LSU Fan new iberia la Member since Nov 2012 1660 posts

| re: Players are free!!! All player discipline vacated. (Posted on 12/11/12 at 12:26 pm to Patrick O Rly)
Free Sean Payton!!!
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Sophandros  New Orleans Saints Fan R'Lyeh Member since Feb 2005 40280 posts

| re: Players are free!!! All player discipline vacated. (Posted on 12/11/12 at 12:26 pm to TigerinATL)
There's still Vilma's defamation suit for Goodell to deal with. Sure, the legalize MIGHT protect him, but still discovery's a bitch...
This post was edited on 12/11 at 12:28 pm
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Cajun Invasion  New Orleans Saints Fan Abbeville, Louisianna Member since Jan 2012 771 posts

| re: Players are free!!! All player discipline vacated. (Posted on 12/11/12 at 12:26 pm to Patrick O Rly)
"How is he going to affirm Goodell findings and totally undo his punishments?" Got to be for the defamation case against Goddell, if Taglibue said they are totally wrong then Roger is fricked in that case.
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LSU=Champions Team Boxtard Member since Apr 2004 12105 posts
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| re: Players are free!!! All player discipline vacated. (Posted on 12/11/12 at 12:27 pm to Patrick O Rly)
WOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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MrLSU  LSU Fan Baton Rouge Member since Jan 2004 1826 posts

| re: Players are free!!! All player discipline vacated. (Posted on 12/11/12 at 12:28 pm to rantfan)
The major question is whether Vilma's defamation and slander suit continue to go forward. Vilma would be crazy to drop the suit now.
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Slapouttiger  LSU Fan alabama Member since Jun 2011 1674 posts

| re: Players are free!!! All player discipline vacated. (Posted on 12/11/12 at 12:28 pm to Patrick O Rly)
Merry Christmas. Now let's sign Payton and get started to upgrade this team
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Bryon Bojengles III  LSU Fan Member since Nov 2012 5128 posts
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| re: Players are free!!! All player discipline vacated. (Posted on 12/11/12 at 12:28 pm to LSU=Champions)
He says there was evidence Vilma offered a bounty on Favre. If that's true Vilma ain't playing. That's bs.
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Breesus  New Orleans Saints Fan House of the Rising Sun Member since Jan 2010 15526 posts
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| re: Players are free!!! All player discipline vacated. (Posted on 12/11/12 at 12:28 pm to Cajun Invasion)
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"How is he going to affirm Goodell findings and totally undo his punishments?"
You would think the guy is Goodell's lawyer or something, oh wait....
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Sophandros  New Orleans Saints Fan R'Lyeh Member since Feb 2005 40280 posts

| re: Players are free!!! All player discipline vacated. (Posted on 12/11/12 at 12:29 pm to Bryon Bojengles III)
Florio
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AstroTiger  LSU Fan Boxtard Baseball Association Member since Oct 2007 10565 posts
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| re: Players are free!!! All player discipline vacated. (Posted on 12/11/12 at 12:31 pm to Putty)
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sounds like a chicken shite escape strategy for the league while still trying to create a factual basis to protect Goodell from Vilma's defamation suit and protect NFL from organizational backlash due to the bull shite imposed on the Saints. Color me unsatisfied.
BINGO
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TigerinATL  New Orleans Saints Fan Member since Feb 2005 26174 posts
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| re: Players are free!!! All player discipline vacated. (Posted on 12/11/12 at 12:31 pm to Sophandros)
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There's still Vilma's defamation suit for Goodell to deal with.
Is there? No penalty is probably as close as Vilma will get to getting his name back. Why keep paying Ginsberg money to eventually lose in court?
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Fun Bunch  New Orleans Saints Fan New Orleans Member since May 2008 15038 posts

| re: Players are free!!! All player discipline vacated. (Posted on 12/11/12 at 12:31 pm to Sophandros)
If anything, this affirms that we won't get our pick back. Pretty smart ruling. Gets rid of players who have a mechanism to fight them, while still saying it was wrong and blaming the org, where the damage is already done. frick you again Goodell.
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