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Gmorgan4982 
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| re: Litmus test for insanity: In your opinion has morality improved over time? (Posted on 12/10/12 at 1:09 am to Diamondawg)
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Plus, I am not looking through 11,000+ regulations to figure out what you are talking about. So, what are you talking about?
I'm talking about all of them. And I'm not just talking about Obama. I'm not sure what point you think I'm trying to make. I said more stupid laws = more people in prison. Since most laws are stupid, I showed you that there have been 11,000 pages of laws added since Obama became president to prove my point. I am not looking up stories about how many laws were added under Bush or Clinton or Reagan.
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reverendotis
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| re: Litmus test for insanity: In your opinion has morality improved over time? (Posted on 12/10/12 at 5:44 am to Powerman)
This is not a simple yes or no question you fricking idiot.
You asked, "do you think this tree is larger or smaller than this one?" and many people have asked what you mean by larger. Do you mean taller, broader, is the trunk larger, etc?
Not expecting different people to assign greater importance to certain issues when answering your question is what is really insane.
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Ace Midnight
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| re: Litmus test for insanity: In your opinion has morality improved over time? (Posted on 12/10/12 at 5:47 am to Powerman)
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I would say that the obvious answer is yes
Well, I'm thinking of another test, then. Your subtle attack on anyone that differs with you in the thread title is completely negated by the only content of the post.
You could have just said, "Anyone who thinks morality has not improved over time is wrong, IMHO."
That might have sparked discussion. Now, I'm just trying to find ways to fight back because you have taken the position that it is obvious that I am insane.
Standards of morality have evolved over time. Certainly from a standpoint of sexual promiscuity and personal responsibility (if those are, in fact, issues of "morals") morals have taken huge steps back in the 65+ years since WWII.
The responsibility can be debated of course - did the Greatest Generation and Silent Generation spoil the boomers so much that this decline, sexual irresponsibility, rampant use of drugs and alcohol, desire for someone else to fund everything (everyone else, actually), or was this progress of immorality following a more natural, organic route. Did the baby boomers "choose" immorality, in other words?
On the other hand, certainly in the West, engaging in warfare on a grand scale is way down. Is that improvement in morality? Have we just exported this to the third world?
F*ck you and your attack on me (and summary dismissal, because I'm obviously insane) without knowing me or even putting forward any analysis - just based on your personal bias about someone who might dare to hold a different opinion on this very debatable topic.
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Powerman
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| re: Litmus test for insanity: In your opinion has morality improved over time? (Posted on 12/10/12 at 3:13 pm to Ace Midnight)
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Now, I'm just trying to find ways to fight back because you have taken the position that it is obvious that I am insane.
Seems rather illogical and inane
Maybe you are insane after all
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Mike da Tigah
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| re: Litmus test for insanity: In your opinion has morality improved over time? (Posted on 12/10/12 at 5:00 pm to Powerman)
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Powerman
Litmus test for insanity: In your opinion has morality improved over time?
I would say that the obvious answer is yes
I think it's critical to know which morality you're referring to first in order to know what has improved, eroded, or changed in the slightest.
Are we referring to Judeo Christian morality, as in God's morality, then no, it's gotten much worse.
Are we referring to man's morality, or what man deems moral and immoral at any given point in time? Then I guess that again depends upon what you think is moral and immoral, and it's going to vary from person to person depending upon their value system. That doesn't make one crazy and the other sane. It just makes people different in what they deem moral and immoral.
This isn't a black and white issue.
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LA kid but AU fan 
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| re: Litmus test for insanity: In your opinion has morality improved over time? (Posted on 12/10/12 at 5:02 pm to Powerman)
I vote no. I believe human nature is immutable.
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NC_Tigah
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| re: Litmus test for insanity: In your opinion has morality improved over time? (Posted on 12/10/12 at 5:19 pm to LA kid but AU fan)
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I vote no. I believe human nature is immutable.
Ah, but human basic instinct vs self-control is an entirely different concept than collective societal mores, skews, or tolerances.
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Powerman
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| re: Litmus test for insanity: In your opinion has morality improved over time? (Posted on 12/10/12 at 5:29 pm to NC_Tigah)
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Ah, but human basic instinct vs self-control is an entirely different concept than collective societal mores, skews, or tolerances.
Right
Social norms have improved which is my only point
It's just odd that people are scratching their heads wondering if things are really better in aggregate than they were when people were enslaved. 
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CC
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| re: Litmus test for insanity: In your opinion has morality improved over time? (Posted on 12/10/12 at 5:48 pm to Powerman)
Whose morality? The Vikings were pretty amoral but so are most sub-Saharan African societies. Buddhist monks are pretty moral but the same can be said for your average gang banger.
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Powerman
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| re: Litmus test for insanity: In your opinion has morality improved over time? (Posted on 12/10/12 at 5:54 pm to CC)
I'm talking about the sum here
Obviously there is some group of people in 1873 that are probably morally superior to some group of a-holes today.
But the fact that people are arguing that societal norms haven't improved since slavery days (and there are literally people arguing that specifically in the United States things have gotten worse sense then) is pretty crazy IMO.
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