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JoBoo 
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| re: US jobless rate falls to 7.7 percent, a 4 year low, NBC reports (Posted on 12/7/12 at 9:03 am to NC_Tigah)
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Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is interesting, but what they hide is vital.
Translation: I don't want to believe the numbers because it makes my party look bad, so i will concoct a bull shite reason to make the numbers appear as poorly as possible.
Heard the same tired rhetoric from you righties from Aug-Nov 5 regarding the poll numbers. Your boy, Rove made an arse of himself using this strategy, but by all means, keep it up. 
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mtntiger
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| re: US jobless rate falls to 7.7 percent, a 4 year low, NBC reports (Posted on 12/7/12 at 9:04 am to NC_Tigah)
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I will never ubderstand how someone who is of working age and not 100% disabled can NOT be counted as unemployedThey are. Just not in the U3 number the press desires to report.
So, what's the REAL number? 10%? 10.5%? 11% or higher?
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DeltaDoc
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| re: US jobless rate falls to 7.7 percent, a 4 year low, NBC reports (Posted on 12/7/12 at 9:06 am to JoBoo)
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Well, as the baby boomers age into retirement, the percentage will drop, genius.
You going on record as stating that the large majority of those that have fallen out of the workforce are retiring babyboomers?
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los angeles tiger
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| re: US jobless rate falls to 7.7 percent, a 4 year low, NBC reports (Posted on 12/7/12 at 9:06 am to NC_Tigah)
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They are. Just not in the U3 number the press desires to report.
Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is interesting, but what they hide is vital.
The U3UE numbers are illustrative.
There is some major nip and tuckage going on with government tranny trying to hide the truth in the facts bikini.
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Jbird 
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| re: US jobless rate falls to 7.7 percent, a 4 year low, NBC reports (Posted on 12/7/12 at 9:17 am to JoBoo)
People giving up looking for jobs is good news, brilliant! 
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GumboPot
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| re: US jobless rate falls to 7.7 percent, a 4 year low, NBC reports (Posted on 12/7/12 at 9:18 am to JoBoo)
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Well, as the baby boomers age into retirement, the percentage will drop, genius.
But ages 65+ have been steadily adding to the workforce:
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The percentage fell steadily under Bush
I couldn't check this. The data only goes back to 6/2008.
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los angeles tiger
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| re: US jobless rate falls to 7.7 percent, a 4 year low, NBC reports (Posted on 12/7/12 at 9:21 am to Jbird)
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People giving up looking for jobs is good news, brilliant!
JoBoo thinks they won the lottery and are evil rich white people.
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pistolpete23 
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Member since Dec 2007
3072 posts
| re: US jobless rate falls to 7.7 percent, a 4 year low, NBC reports (Posted on 12/7/12 at 9:24 am to JoBoo)
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as the baby boomers age into retirement, the percentage will drop,
Are you trying to say half a million baby boomers retired last month?
Man the delusion runs rampant with you people!!!
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BaddestAndvari 
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Member since Mar 2011
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| re: US jobless rate falls to 7.7 percent, a 4 year low, NBC reports (Posted on 12/7/12 at 9:25 am to prplhze2000)
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participation rate. Look at it.
participation rate can be effected by more than just people that have "given up" as well.. I whole bunch of my friends have decided to have children now that the economy is in the "right direction".. just sayin'. It's not always the "they have given up" argument.
ETA: that being said, I do think some people are just giving up, but I also don't think this will be the norm.
ETAA: Go back and look at participation rates from 1970.. just sayin'
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Lsut81
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Member since Jun 2005
54985 posts
| re: US jobless rate falls to 7.7 percent, a 4 year low, NBC reports (Posted on 12/7/12 at 9:27 am to JoBoo)
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Keep hoping for bad news, troll. It kills you that America is on the rebound, doesn't it?
What the frick can't you comprehend from these numbers??? 500k capable Americans are now sitting at home doing dick because of how great this country is rebounding...
Forward!
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Turbeauxdog
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| re: US jobless rate falls to 7.7 percent, a 4 year low, NBC reports (Posted on 12/7/12 at 9:27 am to BaddestAndvari)
participation rate can be effected by more than just people that have "given up" as well.. I whole bunch of my friends have decided to have children now that the economy is in the "right direction".. just sayin'. It's not always the "they have given up" argument.
The participation rate is at something like a 50 year low. I guess millions have decided things are going so swimmingly they'd like to rely on one income and have more mouths to feed?
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constant cough
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| re: US jobless rate falls to 7.7 percent, a 4 year low, NBC reports (Posted on 12/7/12 at 9:27 am to Jbird)
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People giving up looking for jobs is good news, brilliant!
Get people on food stamps and disability and they aren't counted as unemployed.
Forward!
 
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BugAC
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| re: US jobless rate falls to 7.7 percent, a 4 year low, NBC reports (Posted on 12/7/12 at 9:28 am to TenTex)
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TenTex
Read the report.
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The unemployment rate edged down to 7.7 percent in November. The number of unemployed persons, at 12.0 million, changed little.
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Among the major worker groups, the unemployment rates for adult men (7.2 percent), adult women (7.0 percent), teenagers (23.5 percent), whites (6.8 percent), and Hispanics (10.0 percent) showed little or no change in November. The unemployment rate for blacks (13.2 percent) declined over the month. The jobless rate for Asians was 6.4 percent (not seasonally adjusted), little changed from a year earlier.
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The number of long-term unemployed (those jobless for 27 weeks or more) was little changed at 4.8 million in November. These individuals accounted for 40.1 percent of the unemployed. (See table A-12.)
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The civilian labor force participation rate declined by 0.2 percentage point to 63.6 percent in November
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The number of persons employed part time for economic reasons (sometimes referred to as involuntary part-time workers), at 8.2 million in November, was little changed
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there were 979,000 discouraged workers in November, little changed from a year earlier.
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The change in total nonfarm payroll employment for September was revised from +148,000 to +132,000, and the change for October was revised from +171,000 to +138,000.
So using rationale and logic. How does the unemployment rate decrease when 1) All employment numbers are little changed from LAST YEAR? 2) How does the unemployment rate decrease, when the labor participation rate has decreased?
Are you smart enough to connect the dots?
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TROLA
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| re: US jobless rate falls to 7.7 percent, a 4 year low, NBC reports (Posted on 12/7/12 at 9:30 am to JoBoo)
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Well, as the baby boomers age into retirement, the percentage will drop, genius.
Do you not realize that baby boomers and subsequently their offspring have children? A simple search will point to the reality that birth rates of the 90's were a little more and sometimes a little less than the corresponding baby boomer years. It's a fallacy to attribute the falling participation rate to baby boomer retirement.
I support the position that the bleak employment picture has led more households to become single earner homes. Not inherently a bad thing but coupled with those flat out giving up and going on the government dime, we have some major issues that will be glossed over by the house of cards that is our UE rate.
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Bard 
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| re: US jobless rate falls to 7.7 percent, a 4 year low, NBC reports (Posted on 12/7/12 at 9:39 am to BugAC)
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BugAC
I would add to it that this is the time when the 99-week limit on Unemployment benefits is ending for those that have been on it the longest, which *should* be putting many back into the job-seeking market.
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CarrolltonTiger
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New Orleans
Member since Aug 2005
44019 posts
| re: US jobless rate falls to 7.7 percent, a 4 year low, NBC reports (Posted on 12/7/12 at 9:44 am to Progress)
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Interesting.
How is the labor participation rate, how many droped out of the labor market last month?
Obama can have full employment if he depressess us enough or make the benefits lucrative enough to get all of the annoying unemployed to stop looking for work.
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mmcgrath
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New Jersey
Member since Feb 2010
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| re: US jobless rate falls to 7.7 percent, a 4 year low, NBC reports (Posted on 12/7/12 at 9:55 am to GumboPot)
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But ages 65+ have been steadily adding to the workforce
There are a lot of old people so they can both simultaneously increase the drop out rate even while their participation rate climbs. Of course they have to retire some day so that should free up some jobs. I would expect the participation rate to go down a bit when the economy gets a little better and they are able to sell their homes and downsize like my parents just did.
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Northwestern tiger
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| re: US jobless rate falls to 7.7 percent, a 4 year low, NBC reports (Posted on 12/7/12 at 10:01 am to Progress)
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146,000 jobs were created in November.
Interesting.
lets give Romeny some credit
oh wait, Obama won, Snap
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JoBoo
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Member since Jul 2005
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| re: US jobless rate falls to 7.7 percent, a 4 year low, NBC reports (Posted on 12/7/12 at 10:03 am to Turbeauxdog)
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The participation rate is at something like a 50 year low.
Demographic changes are the key here.. Righties looking for a boogey man are ill informed. From the bureau of labor:
The overall labor force participation rate is expected to decline for the remainder of the decade, projected to fall to 62.5% in 2020.[6] By the year 2020, the subpopulation of older adults in the United States is expected to reach 97.8 million people, comprising 28.7% percent of the entire U.S. population, a rise from the 24.7% in 2010.[6] This increase in proportion of older adults can be attributed to the entire Baby Boomer cohort joining the older adult population (ages 55+) by 2020.
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ShortyRob
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| re: US jobless rate falls to 7.7 percent, a 4 year low, NBC reports (Posted on 12/7/12 at 10:03 am to tylercsbn9)
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540k dropped out Not exactly the way you want to recover, but par for the course lately
Sadly, Americans are so fricking stupid, they don't even understand that you need to know BOTH the unemployment rate as well as total employment participation.
I mean frick. Technically, you could have zero percent unemployment AND zero percent working if everyone just gives up.
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