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mograyback 
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| re: The Federal Reserve is not a federal agency. (Posted on 12/6/12 at 6:29 pm to LSURussian)
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You just can't keep yourself from lying about what other posters are saying, can you?
I guess I can't..
Why don't you let him speak for himself.
He said "if we don't turn the tar sand into oil (insert a pic of Arab terrorists)". What could he have possibly meant then? Obviously he is aiming at our use of foreign oil. He went on to say there was a connection between 911 and Keystone, which he refused to explain.
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GumboPot 
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| re: The Federal Reserve is not a federal agency. (Posted on 12/6/12 at 6:35 pm to mograyback)
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I consider it one big issue. We could tell the Canadians they're tapping into a resource that is dirty and costly (not just in dollars) to transform into usable oil. We could as a species decide it's not a smart move. It's ignorant to think there is anything safe and environmentally friendly from any of this project.
What you are not getting is that energy WILL come to market. The alternatives the oil sand producers have is building a pipeline to the pacific coast shipping it by tanker to china and shipping a part by rail to the gulf south. Rail is much dirtier than pipeline and shipping tankers from the pacific coast to china is riskier than pipeline.. Why can't you see this simple logic?
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mograyback
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| re: The Federal Reserve is not a federal agency. (Posted on 12/6/12 at 6:47 pm to GumboPot)
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What you are not getting is that energy WILL come to market
I get that. What you're not getting is I'm simply saying the truly environmentally safe thing to do is if we as a species decided not to transform this to oil. I get that it's going to happen no matter what, and that its safer if we do it instead of letting it get shipped to China.
The oil companies are just buying time while they diversify, its the same thing the cigarette companies did when it was becoming clear that society wasn't going to tolerate their product. Today only a small fraction of cigarette companies profits come from cigarettes. The same will be true of oil companies and energy.
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Paluka
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| re: The Federal Reserve is not a federal agency. (Posted on 12/6/12 at 6:52 pm to mograyback)
Is the federal reserve a Federal agency?
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Jbird 
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| re: The Federal Reserve is not a federal agency. (Posted on 12/6/12 at 6:54 pm to Paluka)
Ah geezus, Lessgraymatter is gonna shite 
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mograyback
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| re: The Federal Reserve is not a federal agency. (Posted on 12/6/12 at 7:01 pm to Paluka)
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Is the federal reserve a Federal agency?
I think you meant to capitalize Federal Reserve instead of 'federal' agency.
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NC_Tigah
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| re: The Federal Reserve is not a federal agency. (Posted on 12/6/12 at 7:08 pm to mograyback)
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Right, however shipping more product to US refineries will increase our manufacturing exports.
Well then that contradicts what NC_Tigah is aiming at.. he thinks it will help us get rid of those pesky Arab terrorists. So if it has no bearing on our use of foreign oil, NC_Tigah must be aiming in the wrong direction
mograyback, you're confusing yourself. This is the exchange you're referencingquote:
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If you choose to not turn tar sand into oil you get (insert picture of green pasture).
If you choose to not turn tar sand into oil you get (insert picture of Arab terrorist).
No mention of a pipeline. That came in your later posts because apparently as was pointed out, you are confusing production with transportation.
Regarding terror and petroleum . . . you figure it out.
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mograyback
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| re: The Federal Reserve is not a federal agency. (Posted on 12/6/12 at 7:11 pm to NC_Tigah)
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NC_Tigah
You are a coward, plain and simple.
Then what were you getting by saying (insert picture of Arab terrorist)? You still haven't explained that, you just keep saying figure it out. You went on to say that 911 and Keystone are connected, I wonder how you'll explain that.. oh wait, you've refused to do that.
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LSURussian
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| re: The Federal Reserve is not a federal agency. (Posted on 12/6/12 at 7:16 pm to mograyback)
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He said "if we don't turn the tar sand into oil (insert a pic of Arab terrorists)". What could he have possibly meant then?
I see that NC has already explained himself but I just wanted to point out you have a very serious reading comprehension problem.
Have you ever been diagnosed as being dyslexic? Many times over the past several days I've noticed you confuse what you read or you don't comprehend what you're reading.
I've also noticed you can't explain your thoughts very well. You rely upon YouTube videos to communicate your thoughts rather than just explaining yourself.
Is English your native language?
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mograyback
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| re: The Federal Reserve is not a federal agency. (Posted on 12/6/12 at 7:23 pm to LSURussian)
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LSURussian
Why don't you let him handle himself..
There has still been no explanation for this comment, or his one about Keystone being connected to 911.
I just want to know what he means by his statement, we can get to reading comprehension once he explains it. (And there you go with the degrading again, veteran tactic. Can you point out where I'm showing a lack of comprehension?)
What is he aiming at with that comment? Personally, I took his comment this way; by using the oil from the pipeline we will use less middle eastern oil and limit our relation with hostile Arabs. What else could he have meant by it? I'm all ears, I've asked now a few times with no answer.
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mograyback
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| re: The Federal Reserve is not a federal agency. (Posted on 12/6/12 at 7:25 pm to LSURussian)
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You rely upon YouTube videos to communicate your thoughts rather than just explaining yourself.
At this point you're really getting pathetic. We're on 16 pages here man, I've done plenty of writing of my own. I guess when I can find a video with the chairmen of the Fed saying they're independent and no other agency of government has power over them, I'd only be a fool to not use such evidence to support my claim.
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LSURussian
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| re: The Federal Reserve is not a federal agency. (Posted on 12/6/12 at 7:33 pm to mograyback)
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There has still been no explanation
You never answer questions. Why should anyone answer yours?
I personally have asked you at least five questions which you ignore. If you don't know the answers, just say so. But you can't do that and then expect others to reply to your questions.
You are seriously wearing out your welcome. If you are only here to be a troll on the board, you won't last long.
You have to eventually stop lying about what other posters have written or they (we) will just ignore you. NC has already begun that process by just telling you 'figure it out.' It's just not worth replying to you when all you do is lie and obfuscate other posters' words.
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Can you point out where I'm showing a lack of comprehension?
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I'm all hears
A perfect example right there. The correct phrase is "I'm all ears."
Also you have repeatedly written "apart" when the context says you meant "a part".....two words. For example, you've written "the Federal Reserve is not apart of the federal government."
The first time or two you did it I thought it just a typo but you've done it so many times I realize you think 'apart' is correct for 'a part.'
It isn't.
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LSURussian
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| re: The Federal Reserve is not a federal agency. (Posted on 12/6/12 at 7:35 pm to mograyback)
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I guess when I can find a video with the chairmen of the Fed saying they're independent and no other agency of government has power over them
Again, your English comprehension skills are seriously lacking. If you just listen to Greenspan's additional comments it's clear what he meant, as I've already explained in a previous post. I can only assume you didn't comprehend my explanation....further evidence of your lack of reading comprehension skills.
Frankly, you're becoming boring.
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| re: The Federal Reserve is not a federal agency. (Posted on 12/6/12 at 7:37 pm to mograyback)
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Then why do it?
Pvt people with their own money want to do it....should we now let the government decide what we can do with our money, which pvt economic risks we're allowed to take....nothing you are worried about (false worries) will not occur if the line is not built so all of your reasons not to build are unimportant. Finally, considering the world we live in it is in our national interest to have a secure oil source from a very friendly neighbor.
Your issue is you're debating with people that actually "do", are associated with either the banking or O&G industries in an executive capacity and have an actual grasp of how these things work, how they work globally. You appear to have read a few articles, maybe a wiki entry and then from that flimsy understanding try to make broad stroke arguments that even real critics wouldn't make...and on top of that you don't think critically.
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LSURussian
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| re: The Federal Reserve is not a federal agency. (Posted on 12/6/12 at 7:39 pm to cwill)
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and on top of that you don't think critically.
Very valid point. 
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mograyback
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| re: The Federal Reserve is not a federal agency. (Posted on 12/6/12 at 7:39 pm to LSURussian)
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You never answer questions. Why should anyone answer yours?
Now who's lying? I answered your question about who pays the Fed salaries.
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C has already begun that process by just telling you 'figure it out.'
No, he has blatantly ignored a dumb comment he made. The Keystone pipeline had nothing to do with 911, which he said it did. And he hasn't explained what he meant by his comment 'if we don't turn the tar sand into oil insert Arab terrorists'..
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Also you have repeatedly written "apart" when the context says you meant "a part".....two words. For example, you've written "the Federal Reserve is not apart of the federal government.
Really? I did that once. The first time I wrote apart and you called it out. Within a couple minutes I wrote a part in the same context and you called it out again. I'm not sure you even know the proper spelling.
And are you really coming at my grammar? I've written extensively on here with few errors. I guess when you finally had to give up on the Federal Reserve argument you've moved on to helping NC_Tigah dig himself out of his comments and attack my grammar.
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mograyback
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| re: The Federal Reserve is not a federal agency. (Posted on 12/6/12 at 7:41 pm to cwill)
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which pvt economic risks we're allowed to take
Except there are public environmental risks, that's why some people outside of the process want to have a say in this project. But then again, I don't think critically.
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from that flimsy understanding
There is nothing flimsy about the links I've provided. There is nothing flimsy about the chairmen of the Federal Reserve saying it is independent and no other government agency has power over it.
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NC_Tigah
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| re: The Federal Reserve is not a federal agency. (Posted on 12/6/12 at 7:42 pm to mograyback)
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you just keep saying figure it out
Yep. I'm trying to heal you.
Look up a list of remedies for fatuous people.
Hint: it has nothing to do with Jenny Craig.
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Jbird
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| re: The Federal Reserve is not a federal agency. (Posted on 12/6/12 at 7:44 pm to NC_Tigah)
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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mograyback
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| re: The Federal Reserve is not a federal agency. (Posted on 12/6/12 at 7:45 pm to NC_Tigah)
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Yep. I'm trying to heal you.
Look up a list of remedies for fatuous people.
Like I thought, you're going to continue to ignore my request for you to explain what you meant by 'insert Arab terrorists'. And I guess I'll just have to 'figure out' what you meant when you said 911 and Keystone are connected.
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