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Ryne Sandberg 
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| re: Why Do Teachers Think They Are Under-Valued? (Posted on 12/3/12 at 9:30 pm to southernelite)
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I especially love it when I've got a big test or something coming up, and some education major talks about how they were coloring in class or how they had to make a simple powerpoint with no paper or anything to go with it. frick them.
Education majors suck balls. I had a real major and took education on the side as a minor.
It's more the Elementary Ed majors that don't do jack shite. At LSU, we wrote a paper a week, plus 5 lesson plans and a unit plan
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southernelite 
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| re: Why Do Teachers Think They Are Under-Valued? (Posted on 12/3/12 at 9:31 pm to RCBayouBengal)
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Jahel
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| re: Why Do Teachers Think They Are Under-Valued? (Posted on 12/3/12 at 9:32 pm to Wiggles)
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Look at Louisiana dipshit
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average $49,006
so 50% of teachers making more than $49k..is not close to 50k+
how about this, which is a more difficult subject....Chemistry or teaching kids
yet:
Average Salary of Jobs Matching Your Search
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In USD as of Dec 3, 2012
Chemist in Louisiana
average $43,000
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Wiggles 
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| re: Why Do Teachers Think They Are Under-Valued? (Posted on 12/3/12 at 9:33 pm to Jahel)
And $50k a year isn't bad when teaching at a school in the suburbs where parents actually are parents. Try making 40 or less at a school where kids would rather get in gang fights rather than bring a fricking pencil to class. And for the record I am not a teacher, but I am married to one and my mother was a teacher for 30 years.
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JabarkusRussell
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| re: Why Do Teachers Think They Are Under-Valued? (Posted on 12/3/12 at 9:34 pm to Sir Drinksalot)
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Bc a lot of parents are a-holes IMHO.
All jobs have a-holes they have to deal with. Customer Service does this yet they don't have the cushy benefits teachers have.
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tduecen 
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| re: Why Do Teachers Think They Are Under-Valued? (Posted on 12/3/12 at 9:34 pm to Ryne Sandberg)
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Louisiana is ninteenth on our comfort scale with a starting salary of $39,880 and average salaries of $49,006. As this state recovers from Hurricane Katrina, the school system is offering incentives such a loan forgiveness to attract teachers. Due to lower starting salaries in this state, think about getting your master's degree as having one will advance your position on the pay scale.
How do salaries grow in Louisiana?
Starting Salary: $39,880
Average Salary: $49,006
Student/Teacher Ratios in Louisiana, 2011
Number of Teachers: 48,894
Number of Students: 696,558
Students per Teacher: 14.0
Louisiana teacher salaries vs. total education expenditures
Total Expenditures: $7,193,354,466
Teacher Expenditures: $2,391,063,282
Percent Spent on Teachers: 33.2 %
Source : National Education Association (nea.org), National Center for Education Statistics (nces.ed.gov), 2011
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Ryne Sandberg
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| re: Why Do Teachers Think They Are Under-Valued? (Posted on 12/3/12 at 9:38 pm to tduecen)
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Starting Salary: $39,880
I would love this. seriously. That's not the lowest in the state for sure. Come up to NELA.
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Students per Teacher: 14.0
try 28 in my 6 classes last year
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Louisiana teacher salaries vs. total education expenditures
Total Expenditures: $7,193,354,466
Teacher Expenditures: $2,391,063,282
Percent Spent on Teachers: 33.2 %
when you think about how behind LA has been technologically and facility wise, this is pretty dang good imo. We shouldn't be spending that much schools though. TOO MUCH
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tduecen
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| re: Why Do Teachers Think They Are Under-Valued? (Posted on 12/3/12 at 9:39 pm to tduecen)
1st year teacher salaries by parishquote:
PDF version of Annual Teacher Salary Schedule 2011-2012
(this file is large ˜ 1MB - and may require extra downloading time)
Minimum Teacher Salaries by District or Experience Level for Years 1995 – present
Please select a sorting preference
VIEW A DISTRICT'S FULL SALARY SCHEDULE FOR A SINGLE SCHOOL YEAR
COMPARE SALARIES BY EXPERIENCE LEVEL FOR THE SAME DISTRICT OVER MANY YEARS
COMPARE SALARIES BY EXPERIENCE LEVEL FOR ALL DISTRICTS FROM ONE SCHOOL YEAR
School District: Experience: School Year:
District School Year Years Exp. 2 Years College 3 Years College Bachelor's Master's Master's +30 Specialist in Ed. Ph.D or Ed.D
ACADIA PARISH 2010-2011 1 0 0 38830 39195 39472 39748 40499
ALLEN PARISH 2010-2011 1 0 0 38625 40178 40678 41509 42515
ASCENSION PARISH 2010-2011 1 0 0 42845 43567 43933 44641 45594
ASSUMPTION PARISH 2010-2011 1 0 0 39482 43163 43582 43811 44337
AVOYELLES PARISH 2010-2011 1 0 0 33759 34112 34112 34643 35349
BEAUREGARD PARISH 2010-2011 1 0 0 35854 36236 36236 36811 37575
BIENVILLE PARISH 2010-2011 1 0 0 41070 41508 41508 42177 43062
BOSSIER PARISH 2010-2011 1 0 0 41201 42074 42861 43650 44437
CADDO PARISH 2010-2011 1 35920 36946 41429 42475 42740 43822 45170
CALCASIEU PARISH 2010-2011 1 0 0 39098 40598 42098 43598 45098
CALDWELL PARISH 2010-2011 1 0 0 35551 35926 35926 36457 37163
CAMERON PARISH 2010-2011 1 0 0 39983 40483 40583 40733 40933
CATAHOULA PARISH 2010-2011 1 27961 28670 31675 32028 32028 32559 33265
CLAIBORNE PARISH 2010-2011 1 0 0 36136 36489 36489 37020 37726
CONCORDIA PARISH 2010-2011 1 0 0 34083 34444 34444 34989 35712
DESOTO PARISH 2010-2011 1 0 0 48700 50450 52200 53950 55700
EAST BATON ROUGE PARISH 2010-2011 1 0 0 43889 44790 45367 46200 47283
EAST CARROLL 2010-2011 1 0 0 31326 31679 31679 32211 32918
EAST FELICIANA PARISH 2010-2011 1 0 0 37064 37464 37464 38066 38866
EVANGELINE PARISH 2010-2011 1 38724 38724 38724 39137 39137 39757 40588
FRANKLIN PARISH 2010-2011 1 0 0 33047 33400 33853 34406 35059
GRANT PARISH 2010-2011 1 0 0 32817 33184 33184 33737 34471
IBERIA PARISH 2010-2011 1 38625 39334 42339 42692 42692 43223 43929
IBERVILLE PARISH 2010-2011 1 0 0 46524 47419 48519 49619 50719
JACKSON PARISH 2010-2011 1 0 0 27355 27708 27708 28239 28945
JEFFERSON PARISH 2010-2011 1 0 0 41549 42149 42749 43349 43949
JEFFERSON DAVIS PARISH 2010-2011 1 11270 11979 41031 42684 42784 43415 44221
LAFAYETTE PARISH 2010-2011 1 0 0 40891 42578 44203 44992 45562
LAFOURCHE PARISH 2010-2011 1 0 0 38378 42392 42392 43005 43817
LASALLE PARISH 2010-2011 1 0 0 37122 37475 37475 38006 38712
LINCOLN PARISH 2010-2011 1 35274 36158 42557 42910 42910 43441 44147
LIVINGSTON PARISH 2010-2011 1 0 0 42004 42468 42568 43215 44043
MADISON PARISH 2010-2011 1 0 0 31680 32029 32033 32560 33270
MOREHOUSE PARISH 2010-2011 1 0 0 40033 40421 40421 41005 41782
NATCHITOCHES PARISH 2010-2011 1 0 0 35826 36679 36679 37210 40982
ORLEANS PARISH 2010-2011 1 0 0 40413 41213 42013 42813 43613
OUACHITA PARISH 2010-2011 1 0 0 35248 36856 38110 39896 41856
PLAQUEMINES PARISH 2010-2011 1 0 0 40775 41336 41525 42211 43176
POINTE COUPEE PARISH 2010-2011 1 0 0 38766 39138 39138 39691 40431
RAPIDES PARISH 2010-2011 1 0 0 36299 36670 36670 37227 37969
RED RIVER PARISH 2010-2011 1 0 0 49665 50116 50116 50797 51702
RICHLAND PARISH 2010-2011 1 25948 26204 33424 34930 36082 37763 39589
SABINE PARISH 2010-2011 1 0 0 39244 39634 39634 40220 41000
ST. BERNARD PARISH 2010-2011 1 0 0 39417 40437 40947 40947 41457
ST. CHARLES PARISH 2010-2011 1 0 40845 43832 44299 44333 45207 46348
ST. HELENA PARISH 2010-2011 1 0 0 30865 31218 31218 31749 32455
ST. JAMES PARISH 2010-2011 1 0 0 45422 46422 47422 48422 49422
ST. JOHN THE BAPTIST PARISH 2010-2011 1 0 0 43338 43792 43792 44496 45503
ST. LANDRY PARISH 2010-2011 1 0 0 39215 39663 39807 40482 41356
ST. MARTIN PARISH 2010-2011 1 0 0 41464 41935 42039 42695 43430
ST. MARY PARISH 2010-2011 1 11270 11979 40315 41035 41362 42321 43501
ST. TAMMANY PARISH 2010-2011 1 0 0 44800 46716 48642 48664 49718
TANGIPAHOA PARISH 2010-2011 1 0 0 41815 42715 42904 43779 44879
TENSAS PARISH 2010-2011 1 26452 27161 30166 30519 30519 31050 31756
TERREBONNE PARISH 2010-2011 1 32877 33646 38314 39242 39242 39885 40741
UNION PARISH 2010-2011 1 0 0 32478 32846 32846 33398 34132
VERMILION PARISH 2010-2011 1 11270 11979 39898 41157 41484 42966 44665
VERNON PARISH 2010-2011 1 25416 26125 36689 37142 37242 37873 38679
WASHINGTON PARISH 2010-2011 1 20000 22000 38569 38971 38971 39576 40381
WEBSTER PARISH 2010-2011 1 0 0 45465 45871 45871 46481 47293
WEST BATON ROUGE PARISH 2010-2011 1 0 0 42309 42712 42712 43319 44126
WEST CARROLL PARISH 2010-2011 1 32039 32748 35753 36106 36106 36637 37343
WEST FELICIANA PARISH 2010-2011 1 0 0 45637 46056 46056 46688 47526
WINN PARISH 2010-2011 1 0 0 37871 38277 38277 38888 39700
CITY OF MONROE 2010-2011 1 0 0 41039 41670 41839 42403 43357
CITY OF BOGALUSA 2010-2011 1 0 0 41762 42537 42942 43964 45207
ZACHARY COMMUNITY 2010-2011 1 0 0 46412 47853 48586 49060 50924
CITY OF BAKER 2010-2011 1 0 0 38363 39804 40537 41011 42875
CENTRAL COMMUNITY 2010-2011 1 0 0 40646 41849 42511 43159 44602
RECOVERY SCHOOL DISTRICT 2010-2011 1 0 0 43774 44214 44654 45674 46694
LDOE Webmasters 2010-2011 1 23452 3452 34523 45234 5234 5234 52345
* All figures are rounded to the nearest whole dollar amount *
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tduecen
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| re: Why Do Teachers Think They Are Under-Valued? (Posted on 12/3/12 at 9:40 pm to Ryne Sandberg)
Fwiw I'm enrolled in Masters program at NSU for education 
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JabarkusRussell
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| re: Why Do Teachers Think They Are Under-Valued? (Posted on 12/3/12 at 9:40 pm to Ryne Sandberg)
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14 students per class
Yeah, that can't be right. I subbed at Salmen once and the class had 33 students.
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Ryne Sandberg
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| re: Why Do Teachers Think They Are Under-Valued? (Posted on 12/3/12 at 9:41 pm to tduecen)
By the way, this system of structured pay raises is going away 
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Wiggles
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| re: Why Do Teachers Think They Are Under-Valued? (Posted on 12/3/12 at 9:42 pm to JabarkusRussell)
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Yeah, that can't be right. I subbed at Salmen once and the class had 33 students.
I agree, there's no way. My wife's school has at least double that in most classes thanks to budget cuts.
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Ryne Sandberg
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| re: Why Do Teachers Think They Are Under-Valued? (Posted on 12/3/12 at 9:43 pm to Wiggles)
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I agree, there's no way. My wife's school has at least double that in most classes thanks to budget cuts.
let's be clear about those numbers: they include special ed where there 4-5 students. Rural schools with less than 20 etc.
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Me Bite
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| re: Why Do Teachers Think They Are Under-Valued? (Posted on 12/3/12 at 9:44 pm to Ryne Sandberg)
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they get $50k plus a year
Need to tell my wife that she is getting screwed. You must be talking about a principal.
This post was edited on 12/3 at 9:45 pm
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Wiggles
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| re: Why Do Teachers Think They Are Under-Valued? (Posted on 12/3/12 at 9:44 pm to Ryne Sandberg)
No doubt. Would love to see where there are actually 14 in a class though
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JabarkusRussell
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| re: Why Do Teachers Think They Are Under-Valued? (Posted on 12/3/12 at 9:46 pm to Ryne Sandberg)
I also hate seeing classes like Talented Art and Music where the teacher has 2 off periods and 10 kids per class yet still gets all of the perks.
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coach
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| re: Why Do Teachers Think They Are Under-Valued? (Posted on 12/3/12 at 9:46 pm to JabarkusRussell)
Just for the record, teachers don't get paid for 3 months off. They take their salary and divide by 12. Some people choose to divide it by 9 and not get paid over the summer.
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JabarkusRussell
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| re: Why Do Teachers Think They Are Under-Valued? (Posted on 12/3/12 at 9:46 pm to Me Bite)
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You must be talking about a principal.
No way in hell do principals only make $50k.
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SCUBABlake
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| re: Why Do Teachers Think They Are Under-Valued? (Posted on 12/3/12 at 9:47 pm to Ryne Sandberg)
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let's be clear about those numbers: they include special ed where there 4-5 students. Rural schools with less than 20 etc.
yeah... apparently some in here don't know how averages work.
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Wiggles
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| re: Why Do Teachers Think They Are Under-Valued? (Posted on 12/3/12 at 9:47 pm to JabarkusRussell)
Principal's make at least $70k
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