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re: Heisman Finalists Just Announced Live on ESPN

Posted on 12/3/12 at 6:10 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 12/3/12 at 6:10 pm to
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Braxton Miller? Oh i get it, he plays for Ohio State i forgot.



i've defended braxton miller before

LINK
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 6:11 pm to
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both


his SEC competition numbers are the best in SEC history?

even after his performances vs UF and LSU; interesting...
Posted by Marciano1
Marksville, LA
Member since Jun 2009
18384 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 6:11 pm to
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Manziel


quote:

he was very mediocre against Florida

23-30 173yds 76%

60rush yds 1td


Not too "mediocre" for a freshman making his first start against FLORIDA
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
420796 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 6:12 pm to
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his SEC competition numbers are the best in SEC history?

i don't really know

teams play 12-13 games before bowls

tebow and newton had their fair share of easy opponents
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 6:13 pm to
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Some dude in the MAC has 100+ tackles this season


Yep, and another Boston College LB is #3 in the country in tackles.

To the BC stat keeper; always keeping his boys on top
Posted by ZTiger87
Member since Nov 2009
11536 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 6:16 pm to
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JFF just had the best season any QB in SEC history has ever had


JFF definitely deserves the heisman this year, but you don't really believe his season was better than Cam's in 2010 or Tebow's in 07? 25% of his total offense and total TDs came in 2 games (Arky, La Tech).
Posted by Buckeye Backer
Columbus, Ohio
Member since Aug 2009
9233 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 6:17 pm to
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i've defended braxton miller before


I wasnt referring to you, i was just making a general statement.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
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Posted on 12/3/12 at 6:19 pm to
SFP show me the ava of me I need an ava. TIA.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
420796 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 6:20 pm to
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
80743 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 6:21 pm to
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Some dude in the MAC has 100+ tackles this season. Do you know his name?

Neither do I.
I don't care about that dude. The 2 other LBs I posted are on 10+ win teams ranked in the top 7. What dont you get about that?
Posted by WeBleedCrimson
Member since Mar 2008
21708 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 6:23 pm to
Just three of them?
Posted by ZereauxSum
Lot 23E
Member since Nov 2008
10176 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 6:26 pm to
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I don't care about that dude. The 2 other LBs I posted are on 10+ win teams ranked in the top 7. What dont you get about that?


I get it. But you're ignoring (or disagreeing with) the fact every turnover that gets generated ends up in the highlights. Maybe a handful of sacks do.

Some lineman or LB is always going to accumulate double digit sacks for a relevant team. It's uncommon for anybody on a team gets 7 picks, especially a mike linebacker.
This post was edited on 12/3/12 at 6:27 pm
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
202510 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 6:30 pm to
It won't work. What Am I doing wrong. frick THIS NEW shite.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 6:30 pm to
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If JFF doesn't win it's bullshite. Klein is overrated and Te'o doesn't deserve it.


Yep.
Posted by DollaChoppa
I Simp for ACC
Member since May 2008
84774 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 6:38 pm to
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47 solo
30 ast
22.5 for loss
12.5 sack
1 int
0 fumble recover
7 forced fumbles



This man right here!!!
Posted by BobABooey
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2004
14223 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 6:59 pm to
I don't think Manziel deserves it. He grades out as "incomplete" in my opinion. He didn't look Heisman-like against UF or LSU and he doesn't lead the nation in traditional QB stats. Let's see how next season plays out and see if Manziel is deserving and not a fluke.

Manziel's biggest supporters are Aggie homers and arse ached Bammers who will feel better knowing that their team lost to a Heisman trophy winner.

The Heisman Trophy mission statement stresses integrity. Getting arrested on multiple counts prior to the season does not equal integrity.
Posted by double d
Amarillo by morning
Member since Jun 2004
16399 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 7:33 pm to
I have no problem with any of those winning, I'm pulling for Te'o.
Posted by ZereauxSum
Lot 23E
Member since Nov 2008
10176 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 7:37 pm to
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He didn't look Heisman-like against UF or LSU


You really only need one "Heisman moment". He had his against Bama.

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he doesn't lead the nation in traditional QB stats


Neither did Tebow

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Getting arrested on multiple counts prior to the season does not equal integrity.


There were a lot of questions about Cams "integrity" too.

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Let's see how next season plays out and see if Manziel is deserving and not a fluke.


So what I hear you saying is that he shouldn't get it because he's a freshman?
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
18215 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 7:50 pm to
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It's uncommon for anybody on a team gets 7 picks, especially a mike linebacker.


I think 7 forced fumbles (wish I could see how many were turned over, and who this player is) is better than picks. I saw 2-3 of teo's picks and the QB threw it straight fricking to him.

Still doesn't change the fact that marqise lee not being in the finalist running is a complete joke
Posted by Marciano1
Marksville, LA
Member since Jun 2009
18384 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 7:53 pm to
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I don't think Manziel deserves it
quote:

Let's see how next season plays out and see if Manziel is deserving and not a fluke.

I don't care if he is the practice QB next year....Manziel deserves it THIS season for what he did THIS year.
This post was edited on 12/3/12 at 7:54 pm
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