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Jed Zeppelin
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| re: According to Bill O'Reilly, govt. endorsement of Christianity is OK because... (Posted on 11/29/12 at 9:17 am to Lsupimp)
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Lsupimp
Good work pimp! 
And......forward !
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Antonio Moss 
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| re: According to Bill O'Reilly, govt. endorsement of Christianity is OK because... (Posted on 11/29/12 at 9:25 am to accnodefense)
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O'Reilly is correct here, government is allowed to display religious objects, they just aren't forced to make you participate or practice a religion.
1st amendment is freedom to practice a religion, not freedom FROM religion
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TheDoc 
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| re: According to Bill O'Reilly, govt. endorsement of Christianity is OK because... (Posted on 11/29/12 at 9:40 am to Antonio Moss)
Yeah that's ridiculous.
The government can't endorse any particular religion.
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catholictigerfan
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| re: According to Bill O'Reilly, govt. endorsement of Christianity is OK because... (Posted on 11/29/12 at 9:44 am to Rex)
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Christianity is not a religion...
it's merely a philosophy
I would say it is both
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TheDoc
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| re: According to Bill O'Reilly, govt. endorsement of Christianity is OK because... (Posted on 11/29/12 at 9:45 am to catholictigerfan)
If Christianity isn't a religion, then Christian churches should not be tax exempt
Am I right?
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catholictigerfan
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| re: According to Bill O'Reilly, govt. endorsement of Christianity is OK because... (Posted on 11/29/12 at 9:46 am to TheDoc)
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If Christianity isn't a religion, then Christian churches should not be tax exempt
Am I right?
sure why not
but I'm not arguing Christianity isn't a religion
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catholictigerfan
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| re: According to Bill O'Reilly, govt. endorsement of Christianity is OK because... (Posted on 11/29/12 at 9:46 am to TheDoc)
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Yeah that's ridiculous.
The government can't endorse any particular religion.
so would putting up a christmas tree in the white house endorse a religion?
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TheDoc
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| re: According to Bill O'Reilly, govt. endorsement of Christianity is OK because... (Posted on 11/29/12 at 9:48 am to catholictigerfan)
Holiday tree
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catholictigerfan
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| re: According to Bill O'Reilly, govt. endorsement of Christianity is OK because... (Posted on 11/29/12 at 9:49 am to TheDoc)
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Holiday tree
wtf is a holiday tree?
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RCDfan1950
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| re: According to Bill O'Reilly, govt. endorsement of Christianity is OK because... (Posted on 11/29/12 at 9:53 am to Rex)
I watched the interview, Rex. He handled O'Reilly. O tried his usual big guy intimidation...but that atheist is one tough hombre'. Hell, for that matter, any thinking person that can go through life believing they will be non-existant FOREVER...is a tough hombre' imv.
There were writings in the old days out of pre-American European Christianity that exhorted - as a pre-eminent purpose of Government - the overseeing and promotion of TRUE religion (religious philosophical concepts). In order for the governed to prosper. That exhortation is now falling on deaf ears...and will be wrought with substantial societal consequences. Already is.
"Behold, there is a way that SEEMETH RIGHT...but the end thereof is destruction" (Biblical).
Live and learn. 
Freedom rocks. For them can handle it.
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TheDoc
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| re: According to Bill O'Reilly, govt. endorsement of Christianity is OK because... (Posted on 11/29/12 at 9:55 am to RCDfan1950)
Some of us don't want to live in a theocracy
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catholictigerfan
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| re: According to Bill O'Reilly, govt. endorsement of Christianity is OK because... (Posted on 11/29/12 at 9:56 am to TheDoc)
still want to know what a holiday tree is.
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TheJacer
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| re: According to Bill O'Reilly, govt. endorsement of Christianity is OK because... (Posted on 11/29/12 at 10:02 am to Rex)
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Is Islam a religion?
It would appear here that you are defining Islam as a religion, which I would agree with.
Politicians are free to make decisions based on their personal values, as these are largely what they (at least pretend) to campaign on. Who is to say where they develop their values, what influences them? The constitution prevents the government from interfering in a persons practice of their religion (with exception to human sacrifices and some other things). It also prevents the government from establishing a state religion. I would argue thats as far as this goes. To ask the representatives to make decisions without considering their personal values or even religious beliefs would be assinine, as would asking congress to pass a law preventing public display of religious symbols which don't decapatate (sp?) passers-by.
Now, you want to speak about a specific instance of our government actively endorsing a religion? How about NASA being restructured to Muslim Outreach? Not only are we no longer utilizing NASA to its fullest potential for what it was intended, we are also pissing away money to bolster the self esteem of muslims.
LINK
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TK421
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| re: According to Bill O'Reilly, govt. endorsement of Christianity is OK because... (Posted on 11/29/12 at 10:09 am to TheDoc)
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If Christianity isn't a religion, then Christian churches should not be tax exempt
If Christianity isn't a religion, does that suddenly make churches for profit entities?
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Ace Midnight
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| re: According to Bill O'Reilly, govt. endorsement of Christianity is OK because... (Posted on 11/29/12 at 10:19 am to Rex)
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Is Islam a religion? Buddhism?
Broadly, Islam is kind of on the line, as Sunni and Shi'a do differ significantly, as do other branches and flavors - and they do so on key aspects of dogma, etc.
"Buddhism" - definitely not - that is almost the classic definition of a philosophy with some mystical/supernatural aspects of it, but, almost as the rational child of Hinduism - some practice buddhism almost purely as a religion and there are those on the completely opposite extreme.
And, before you ask, Shintoism is, in my opinion, a religion.
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TheDoc
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| re: According to Bill O'Reilly, govt. endorsement of Christianity is OK because... (Posted on 11/29/12 at 10:23 am to catholictigerfan)
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still want to know what a holiday tree is.
A tree that looks nice
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buddhavista
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| re: According to Bill O'Reilly, govt. endorsement of Christianity is OK because... (Posted on 11/29/12 at 10:26 am to Ace Midnight)
this whole war on christmas shite is a crock of shite.
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catholictigerfan
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| re: According to Bill O'Reilly, govt. endorsement of Christianity is OK because... (Posted on 11/29/12 at 10:26 am to TheDoc)
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A tree that looks nice
so why would you suggest putting it up in the white house over a christmas tree?
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Ace Midnight
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| re: According to Bill O'Reilly, govt. endorsement of Christianity is OK because... (Posted on 11/29/12 at 10:28 am to catholictigerfan)
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so would putting up a christmas tree in the white house endorse a religion?
This is where they start down the path where we can declare them crazy.
When the government says, "Everybody come down to the fire station and get your tree - anybody not in compliance will get fined $5 per day until you put your tree up." THAT's establishment.
When the mayor of NYC is of a Christian denomination and he puts up a Christmas (yeah, I said it) tree in his official residence that's him freely practicing his religion. Just as a Jewish mayor puts up a Menorah, etc.
The White House is POTUS and family's home while they are President and First Family.
Just as the community ought to be able to put up a nativity at a fire station or a tree in the square of the town - the rights of the minority should be protected, but they should not dictate observances of the majority. I cannot see what is so bad, here.
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TheDoc
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| re: According to Bill O'Reilly, govt. endorsement of Christianity is OK because... (Posted on 11/29/12 at 10:32 am to catholictigerfan)
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so why would you suggest putting it up in the white house over a christmas tree?
It's the same thing
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