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re: It's time to ban dog deer hunting
Posted on 11/26/12 at 8:26 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Posted on 11/26/12 at 8:26 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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I'd like to see it
I wrote that for you. I get pics of deer during the day and night leading up to dog season starting. The correlation of all night pictures and dog season is quite remarkable.
I'd say before dog season I get 40% day and 60% night pics. After dog season I 'd say 5% day and 95% night pics. I also get a lot of pictures of dogs...
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Posted on 11/26/12 at 8:28 pm to Monticello
Agree Monticello, it gets really old listening to the same excuses..did have two young guys apologize to me on Thanksgiving day and we didn't report them.
Posted on 11/26/12 at 8:30 pm to 007mag
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Your issue isn't with dog hunters but with trespassers who happen to hunt using dogs. If these guys were coming on your property and shooting deer with bows would you want to outlaw archery? If they were cutting your timber would you want to outlaw fireplaces?
Ridiculous argument. I don't have a problem with trespassing bow hunters. If I did, the law is on my side and the trespasser can be arrested. I have a huge problem with trespassing dogs, but the law gives me very few legal ways of dealing with the problem.
Posted on 11/26/12 at 8:30 pm to Clyde Tipton
I don't care if anybody hunts with dogs. All power to you. However, I do kill every dog that runs deer through my woods. So I dont have much of a problem with it. My final stand on the issue
Posted on 11/26/12 at 8:35 pm to Clyde Tipton
On our property we notice no chance in day/night picture during dog season.
However, we only run dogs two days a week, only turn loose 4-6 dogs per hunt (with anywhere between 6 and 30 people hunting), hunt till noon, and then spend the rest of the day catching dogs if we don't bring them all out the woods with us, which we do quite often.
Moral of the story, there are groups who still enjoy hunting with dogs while doing it in a very responsible manner that has noticeable effect on deer behavior.
However, we only run dogs two days a week, only turn loose 4-6 dogs per hunt (with anywhere between 6 and 30 people hunting), hunt till noon, and then spend the rest of the day catching dogs if we don't bring them all out the woods with us, which we do quite often.
Moral of the story, there are groups who still enjoy hunting with dogs while doing it in a very responsible manner that has noticeable effect on deer behavior.
Posted on 11/26/12 at 8:39 pm to drakeT1217
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I do kill every dog that runs deer through my woods
I don't understand how you sleep at night.
Seriously.
In one thread there are people jumping down my neck for not taking my dog to the vet for an abscess, in another there are people who blast dogs like they are inanimate.
All hunting drama aside, there's no way I could just blast dogs like that.
Posted on 11/26/12 at 8:40 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Do you shoot coyotes ? Or other animals that are nuisance?
Posted on 11/26/12 at 8:41 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Moral of the story, there are groups who still enjoy hunting with dogs while doing it in a very responsible manner that has noticeable effect on deer behavior.
True. But the vast majority of dog hunters really have ruined it for you and dog hunters in general have ruined it for themselves for banding together as one and fighting any possible regulation that might stop the 90% who don't have enough land to dog hunt without trespassing.
Posted on 11/26/12 at 8:42 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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we only run dogs two days a week, only turn loose 4-6 dogs per hunt
Well these guys hunt 7 days a week and turn loose a pack 12+ strong.
They never catch all their dogs. I get pics of dogs at night, and about February I start getting pics of skinny, poor health dogs just withering away. But hey, they have 25 more behind the house in the pen... it ain't no big deal.
Posted on 11/26/12 at 8:42 pm to drakeT1217
Yep.
A dog which is not wild is not a nuisance to me though.
A dog which is not wild is not a nuisance to me though.
Posted on 11/26/12 at 8:43 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
That's because you aren't sitting in a deer stand trying to kill a deer
Posted on 11/26/12 at 8:44 pm to drakeT1217
No shite, last week there were 2 house cats eating a pile of my rice bran. A doe was off in the woods blowing at them and wouldn't come out while they were there.
Should I shoot Toonces for trespassing?
Should I shoot Toonces for trespassing?
Posted on 11/26/12 at 8:44 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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I don't understand how you sleep at night.
So how do you suggest we stop dog hunters from trespassing on our land? You don't want to ban it and you don't think we should kill trespassing dogs.
Posted on 11/26/12 at 8:44 pm to Monticello
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banding together as one and fighting any possible regulation that might stop the 90% who don't have enough land to dog hunt without trespassing
To my knowledge the only legislation that is ever brought up is complete bans of dog hunting for a given area.
Posted on 11/26/12 at 8:45 pm to drakeT1217
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That's because you aren't sitting in a deer stand trying to kill a deer
huh?
Posted on 11/26/12 at 8:46 pm to Monticello
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So how do you suggest we stop dog hunters from trespassing on our land?
The same way everybody else stops every other kind of trespasser from trespassing on their land. Confront them, then start calling the law on them.
Posted on 11/26/12 at 8:46 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Huh?
You don't think they're a nuisance because they aren't running wild through your woods while your trying to hunt
You don't think they're a nuisance because they aren't running wild through your woods while your trying to hunt
Posted on 11/26/12 at 8:47 pm to drakeT1217
Ohhh quite the contrary. I intentionally have them running through my woods while I'm trying to hunt.
Posted on 11/26/12 at 8:47 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
I grew up running dogs and loved it. Used to defend it. Fact is deer hounds get out of the race or just run the race across the country. Every drive had at least one dog that would get off the reservation. The majority of people running dogs are outlaws and disrespectful to other hunters rights and traditions, yet think theirs should be untouchable. I don't spend time defending them anymore and tend to lean towards the " frick them" point of view.
Posted on 11/26/12 at 8:49 pm to INFIDEL
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I don't spend time defending them anymore and tend to lean towards the " frick them" point of view.
If I knew it wouldn't get it outlawed for me I'd feel the same way, but I'm covering my own arse.
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