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Do we own the original rights to "Death Valley"?
Posted on 11/25/12 at 12:56 am
Posted on 11/25/12 at 12:56 am
Or does Clemson? Their fight song is similar to ours too. Just curious as to who was first. TIA
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Posted on 11/25/12 at 12:56 am to realtalk
Pretty sure their stadium was named death valley before ours.
Posted on 11/25/12 at 12:56 am to realtalk
Clemson used it first
Posted on 11/25/12 at 12:57 am to realtalk
Own rights?
Posted on 11/25/12 at 12:59 am to realtalk
Clemson was the original Death Valley.
The popular story for the LSU name is that it was originally "Deaf Valley" and through word of mouth it got distorted to "Death Valley"
How much truth is in that story I don't know.
The popular story for the LSU name is that it was originally "Deaf Valley" and through word of mouth it got distorted to "Death Valley"
How much truth is in that story I don't know.
Posted on 11/25/12 at 3:11 am to GeauxWarTigers
I think Peter Finney says that is the true story about LSU "Deaf" Valley. Clemson has a Rock from Death Valley that is mounted where the players come in and they touch the Rock from Death Valley. Clemson Memorial Stadium is in a Valley. In the old days the players would touch the Rock and then run down a hill into the Stadium. They had a giant carpet with Tigers on it that the players used to run down the hill. Clemson plays the heck out of "Tiger Rag". LSU is Purple and Gold and Clemson is Purple and Orange. LSU plays at night and Clemson has mostly always played in the afternoon. It was a long time they did not have lights. The last time I was there the Stadium Capacity was about 45,000 and I sat in the End Zone on some bleacher seats.
Posted on 11/25/12 at 3:22 am to realtalk
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Or does Clemson?
win less
Posted on 11/25/12 at 6:24 am to TigerintheNO
The Death Valley thing took off when the movie "Everybody's All-American " was shot at Tiger Stadium. The movie people hung a Death Valley banner under the pressbox for the movie and it stayed there for quite awhile.
Posted on 11/25/12 at 6:57 am to realtalk
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Do we own the original rights to "Death Valley"?
No, but I think we own the "rights" to two bits, four bits...
Posted on 11/25/12 at 7:14 am to realtalk
They had "death valley" first. But ours is better and definitely louder. Also, we used the song first.
Posted on 11/25/12 at 7:24 am to agdoctor
quote:
The Death Valley thing took off when the movie "Everybody's All-American " was shot at Tiger Stadium. The movie people hung a Death Valley banner under the pressbox for the movie and it stayed there for quite awhile.
Not true. Called Death Valley long before that.
Posted on 11/25/12 at 7:28 am to Ole War Skule
Clemson is the original, but not necessarily the best.
Posted on 11/25/12 at 7:48 am to agdoctor
quote:
The Death Valley thing took off when the movie "Everybody's All-American " was shot at Tiger Stadium. The movie people hung a Death Valley banner under the pressbox for the movie and it stayed there for quite awhile.
Oh, so like most things to do with LSU it wasn't completely original.
Posted on 11/25/12 at 7:51 am to realtalk
Clemson coined it first.
As far as music, several of our fight songs were popular ones way back, so schools that are "Tigers" tend to use them.
Tiger Rag:
LINK
Hold That Tiger:
LINK
Hey Look Me Over - tune sound familiar? I don't think anybody else uses this because it's an adaptation.
LINK
quote:I'd love to hear a definitive story on when LSU started using it. It was definitely well before "Everybody's All American" though. That came out my freshman year and the "Welcome to Death Valley" sign was already there.
The term "Death Valley" comes from Death Valley National Park in California. But two additional facts also add to the mystique. First, the university cemetery sits on a hill that once overlooked the field before the upper decks were constructed. The other reference comes from the late Lonnie McMillian, the former football coach at Presbyterian College. He told sports writers in 1948 that he had "to take his team up to Clemson and play in death valley" where they rarely scored or gained a victory. The nickname stuck to an extent, but when Clemson Head Coach Frank Howard started calling it that in the 1950s, the nickname really caught on. The nickname was solidified when Frank Howard received what came to be known as "Howard's Rock" in September 1966 from an alumnus, S.C. Jones, who had picked it up in Death Valley, California. Gene Willimon, executive secretary of the booster club, affixed the rock on a pedestal at the top of the hill above the east end zone. To this day, Tigers players continue to rub the rock for good luck before descending the hill on game days.
As far as music, several of our fight songs were popular ones way back, so schools that are "Tigers" tend to use them.
Tiger Rag:
LINK
Hold That Tiger:
LINK
Hey Look Me Over - tune sound familiar? I don't think anybody else uses this because it's an adaptation.
LINK
This post was edited on 11/25/12 at 7:56 am
Posted on 11/25/12 at 8:00 am to TriumphTiger
quote:
The Death Valley thing took off when the movie "Everybody's All-American " was shot at Tiger Stadium.
Not even close to being true.
Clemson may have originated the name, but LSU uses it best. He who uses it best owns it most. That simple.
Posted on 11/25/12 at 10:23 am to SpqrTiger
You can believe what you want. It was never a big deal until that time. When games became widely broadcast on tv the announcers ran with it. I can assure you there wasn't a sign until that movie.
Posted on 11/25/12 at 10:26 am to realtalk
Their stadium was definitely named Death Valley before LSU.
Posted on 11/25/12 at 10:27 am to agdoctor
As I understand it LSU owns the rights to "Hey"
Posted on 11/25/12 at 10:46 am to agdoctor
quote:
The Death Valley thing took off when the movie "Everybody's All-American " was shot at Tiger Stadium. The movie people hung a Death Valley banner under the pressbox for the movie and it stayed there for quite awhile.
LOL
The sign Death Valley was under the press Box in the 1960's and was changed to Welcome Death Valley in the mid 70's.
We have pictures of the sign from the 1960's.
This post was edited on 11/25/12 at 10:47 am
Posted on 11/25/12 at 10:52 am to GeauxWarTigers
quote:
Clemson was the original Death Valley.
The popular story for the LSU name is that it was originally "Deaf Valley" and through word of mouth it got distorted to "Death Valley"
Not ture
A college in the northeast used Death Valley back in the 1910's.
Also not ture on Deaf Vally being changed to Death Valley.
The Deaf Dome was given that name in 1978/9 and as I told Jimmy at SID at LSU it would not take long for the fans to mix them up.
Also just like in Death Valley in Cal, it had a service station named deaf Valley in it. It is and was a play on words.
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