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udtiger 
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| re: Dartmouth Society of Douchebags (Posted on 11/22/12 at 8:16 pm to TigerJeff)
Odd. The criticisms seem better directed to Obama and the Dems.
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Diamondawg 
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| re: Dartmouth Society of Douchebags (Posted on 11/22/12 at 8:37 pm to cwill)
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She just gave money to the Vatican.
She gave her Nobel Prize money to the poor in India; not the Vatican.
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McLemore
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| re: Dartmouth Society of Douchebags (Posted on 11/22/12 at 8:48 pm to Tom288)
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I see no irony there.
i assume he's saying that an overhyped person worshipped by members of a silly religion is calling out an overhyped person worshipped by members of a silly religion, for being an overhyped person worshipped by members of a silly religion.
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| re: Dartmouth Society of Douchebags (Posted on 11/22/12 at 8:51 pm to McLemore)
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Eighteen
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| re: Dartmouth Society of Douchebags (Posted on 11/22/12 at 9:56 pm to cwill)
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She believed in poverty and suffering, raised money on the backs of the poor, suffering Indians and never did anything to improve the medical care or lessen their suffering. She just gave money to the Vatican.
What did she do that was "good"?
This just seems like revisionists history bull shite to me.
Yes, she may have not performed "miracles" (like some are saying she did to push her Sainthood), and yes she may have raised money and given it to the vatican, but to act like the lady did nothing good in the world is laughable.
After she died, it seems like some people are just going out of there way to hate and pile on a Catholic lady who spent her whole like working with the poor and people in poverty.
You can believe what you want, I have read multiple articles "criticizing" her, but they all seem to have an agenda and none of the articles tell of any good she did.
I am not a very religion person by any means, but it seems like a lot of anti-Catholic people just being douche bags to a lady who has passed away simply because she is glorified by the Catholics and people enjoy hating on Catholic beliefs and tearing things down they believe in.
But I'm sure you are correct, she literally did no good in the world and people would be better off if she was never born.
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cahoots
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| re: Dartmouth Society of Douchebags (Posted on 11/22/12 at 10:36 pm to Fat Bastard)
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oh the irony
I don't think you know what irony means
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McLemore
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| re: Dartmouth Society of Douchebags (Posted on 11/22/12 at 10:41 pm to cahoots)
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I don't think you know what irony means
see my post for plausible explanation.
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Dark Tiger
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| re: Dartmouth Society of Douchebags (Posted on 11/23/12 at 12:11 am to TigerJeff)
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the late Christopher Hitchens
Total POS enjoying his dirt nap and dat heat...
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bmy
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| re: Dartmouth Society of Douchebags (Posted on 11/23/12 at 12:14 am to TigerJeff)
This just in.. people who do good things can still be liars and thieves. Are you offended because you idolize her?
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bmy
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| re: Dartmouth Society of Douchebags (Posted on 11/23/12 at 12:16 am to Dark Tiger)
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Total POS enjoying his dirt nap and dat heat...
The fact that you believe in hell.. I just love it .. in on catholic circle jerk thread
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CITWTT
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| re: Dartmouth Society of Douchebags (Posted on 11/23/12 at 5:37 am to Revelator)
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Wow 5-10 huh?
Not a bad crowd for a anti-religous circle jerk.
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Dark Tiger
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| re: Dartmouth Society of Douchebags (Posted on 11/23/12 at 5:44 am to bmy)
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The fact that you believe in hell.. I just love it
ahh, but you're still a dickhead...
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Libertariantiger
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| re: Dartmouth Society of Douchebags (Posted on 11/23/12 at 7:26 am to Blue Velvet)
I really don't care either way, but sometimes it helps to know what people who don't care have read/think
1. She helped plenty of people
2. She always made sure a camera was around
3. Biggest complaint I have heard is her friendliness with Dictators like Chavez in Venezuela. Seems like u were an okay Despot as long as u were a Catholic Despot and had a Catholic nation.
As I say, some people I have asked when talking about Mother Teresa had no idea some criticise her and think she is universally loved.
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ForeLSU
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| re: Dartmouth Society of Douchebags (Posted on 11/23/12 at 8:13 am to Libertariantiger)
here's an interesting take from an atheist on the disdain for mother teresa...
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No, the reason Teresa has been elevated by radical atheists above everyone else in the League Of Evil Religious Crackpots is because she’s an easy target. Today’s New Atheists, more interested in getting their religion-hating rocks off than in actually Enlightening anyone, love crusading against Teresa because she indulged in a so-unsophisticated and foreign form of Christianity. Religion in the Third World, with its old-fashioned figureheads and its sometimes desperate adherents, makes for a far easier, and far more fun, target than the subtle religious practices of modern Western society. For today’s campaigning atheists, the sight of a little old woman in an off-white habit providing hammocks for poor, wide-eyed Indians is too bizarre and backward to let pass by. And lacking the intellectual faculties and old-style atheistic humanity to explain such practices, they merely mock them, denounce them, laugh at them over their £3 lattes.
Indeed, much of the Teresa-baiting is aimed not at the woman herself, but at her thick and gullible followers. Hitchens described his book about Mother Teresa as an argument ‘not with a deceiver but with the deceived’, her ‘credulous and uncritical’ followers. ‘In the gradual manufacture of an illusion, the conjuror is only the instrument of the audience’, he said. A favourable review of Hitchens’ book, written while Mother Teresa was still alive in 1996, said ‘one can only be appalled by the lack of intellectual sophistication of her admirers who hold her in such high esteem and who seize upon her every asinine comment as a sign of her astuteness and philosophical depth’. This is not a serious or intellectual dismantling of the meaning, impact and structures of religion; it is fundamentally fun-poking at dumb Indians.
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TigerJeff
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| re: Dartmouth Society of Douchebags (Posted on 12/23/12 at 8:54 am to 20MuleTeam)
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piece of garbage
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Hitchens
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VOR 
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| re: Dartmouth Society of Douchebags (Posted on 12/23/12 at 9:49 am to TigerJeff)
Why Mother Teresa Was Evil
Sarah Fitz-Claridge
She built up and ran an international corporation using slave labour. It was not slave labour in the legal sense, of course, but the psychological reality was precisely that of slave labour. She chose India as her base and got many young girls for her convents. Those young girls/women were not there voluntarily in the psychological sense, they were there because their parents put enormous psychological pressure on them to become nuns. Mother T had a hideously austere set of rules for them, summed up by chastity, obedience and suchlike, and that meant obedience to the church, i.e., her. (One wonders what happened when chastity and obedience came into conflict. I'll bet it was chastity that got sacrificed.)
She got off on playing the part of the ministering angel, and chose to save the souls of the lowest of the low – the people who were dying. The problem is that she was not interested in curing anyone. As Christopher Hitchens has said, an English nurse actually left after Mother Teresa had refused to help a child who would certainly have lived had he had a course of antibiotics. Her response was that it was irrelevant because he was going to meet God anyway! She wasn't interested in the living or potentially living, only the dying, and she was only interested in the dying for her own selfish pleasure in getting off on playing the ministering angel. She wasn't interested in helping them to get better, only to save their souls.
She betrayed the dying too. What she was doing was incompatible with having moral relationships with people. When you develop a relationship with someone, you thereby acquire an obligation to treat that person differently from how you might treat a complete stranger. A parent who has a child adopted at birth does not raise obligations to that child, but a parent who chooses to parent does thereby raise an obligation to the children she chooses to bring up. To the extent that Mother Teresa developed relationships with people in her care, she was acting immorally in not using the available money to treat them where that would have made a difference to whether they live or die, for example.
Mommie Dearest
The pope beatifies Mother Teresa, a fanatic, a fundamentalist, and a fraud.
By Christopher Hitchens
This returns us to the medieval corruption of the church, which sold indulgences to the rich while preaching hellfire and continence to the poor. MT was not a friend of the poor. She was a friend of poverty. She said that suffering was a gift from God. She spent her life opposing the only known cure for poverty, which is the empowerment of women and the emancipation of them from a livestock version of compulsory reproduction. And she was a friend to the worst of the rich, taking misappropriated money from the atrocious Duvalier family in Haiti (whose rule she praised in return) and from Charles Keating of the Lincoln Savings and Loan. Where did that money, and all the other donations, go? The primitive hospice in Calcutta was as run down when she died as it always had been—she preferred California clinics when she got sick herself—and her order always refused to publish any audit. But we have her own claim that she opened 500 convents in more than a hundred countries, all bearing the name of her own order. Excuse me, but this is modesty and humility?
One of the curses of India, as of other poor countries, is the quack medicine man, who fleeces the sufferer by promises of miraculous healing. Sunday was a great day for these parasites, who saw their crummy methods endorsed by his holiness and given a more or less free ride in the international press. Forgotten were the elementary rules of logic, that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence and that what can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. More than that, we witnessed the elevation and consecration of extreme dogmatism, blinkered faith, and the cult of a mediocre human personality. Many more people are poor and sick because of the life of MT: Even more will be poor and sick if her example is followed. She was a fanatic, a fundamentalist, and a fraud, and a church that officially protects those who violate the innocent has given us another clear sign of where it truly stands on moral and ethical questions.
Mother Teresa: Faithless Fraud and Hypocrite
by Michael Parenti
What usually went unreported were the vast sums she received from
wealthy and sometimes tainted sources, including a million dollars from
convicted savings & loan swindler Charles Keating, on whose behalf she
sent a personal plea for clemency to the presiding judge. She was asked
by the prosecutor in that case to return Keating's gift because it was
money he had stolen. She never did.[1] She also accepted substantial
sums given by the brutal Duvalier dictatorship that regularly stole
from the Haitian public treasury.
Mother Teresa's hospitals for the indigent in India and elsewhere turned
out to be hardly more than human warehouses in which seriously ill
persons lay on mats, sometimes fifty to sixty in a room without benefit
of adequate medical attention. Their ailments usually went undiagnosed.
The food was nutritionally lacking and sanitary conditions were
deplorable. There were few medical personnel on the premises, mostly
untrained nuns and brothers.[2]
When tending to her own ailments, however, Teresa checked into some of
the costliest hospitals and recovery care units in the world for
state-of-the-art treatment.[3]
And I had a couple of friends who lived and worked in in India. They pretty much say the same thing. But believe what you wish.
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TrueTiger
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| re: Dartmouth Society of Douchebags (Posted on 12/23/12 at 9:56 am to cwill)
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raised money on the backs of the poor
I didn't know she was a democrat.
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Patrick O Rly
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| re: Dartmouth Society of Douchebags (Posted on 12/23/12 at 10:13 am to TigerJeff)
I admittedly don't know much about MT, but what if these guys have a point? I've asked before "What if the Dalai Lama is an a-hole?" It's a legit question.
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Rex
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| re: Dartmouth Society of Douchebags (Posted on 12/23/12 at 10:15 am to TigerJeff)
All in all, Mother Teresa was very bad for this world. Encouraging people to spew out as many children as possible into poverty is a pretty terrible thing. Aside from that, Mother Teresa never sought less than the best care for herself while glorifying poverty for others.
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VOR
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| re: Dartmouth Society of Douchebags (Posted on 12/23/12 at 10:15 am to Patrick O Rly)
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I admittedly don't know much about MT, but what if these guys have a point?
I guess the point would be that she collected a lot of money, enjoyed the limelight and actually made some of the conditions for the poor in India worse.
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I've asked before "What if the Dalai Lama is an a-hole?" It's a legit question.
I agree with this one, too. People assume he's a peaceful, spiritual good guy. I need to do some research.
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