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If it ever comes up again, tell your classmate to look up Lysander Spooner ;)





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I just read a bit about him recently. Interesting cat.

I'm not sure what good it will do. I just hope, like myself, he realizes his benevolence is misguided and filtered through the wrong medium.






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Someone crunched the numbers, and Papa Johns would spend far less on employee health care than they do giving away one million pizzas like they do every year during football season.

I've hear the pizza giveaway angle from the left ever since this story broke. What kind of a "gotcha" moment is that supposed to be for you? Over what period of time does it cost less? What does the restaurant get in return for the health benefits?

Free samples are a longstanding method of getting people to buy your food. It's an investment. Being saddled with bloated benefit requirements for unskilled employees is not. You get the same work, but you spend more for healthcare. It's a huge loss. No gain whatsoever.

If that bull shite parlor trick is supposed to be a "last word" angle on the argument, I really fear for the country's future, because clearly, the idiots have taken over the country.







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If that bull shite parlor trick is supposed to be a "last word" angle on the argument, I really fear for the country's future, because clearly, the idiots have taken over the country.


I heard mention that the ACA will end up costing every employer an average of an extra $1.50 per employee hour worked. While this would be nil if you employee heart surgeons, it adds up quick if you own a restaurant.

I mention this here because I haven't been able to find anything to back that claim up yet, so since the other side can fling out unsubstantiated information as if it were fact I might as well to, right?






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If that bull shite parlor trick is supposed to be a "last word" angle on the argument, I really fear for the country's future, because clearly, the idiots have taken over the country.


They have not only taken over, they are running things now.






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I heard mention that the ACA will end up costing every employer an average of an extra $1.50 per employee hour worked. While this would be nil if you employee heart surgeons, it adds up quick if you own a restaurant.

Even if it's $.1 per employee, what is the employer getting in return? Liberals have argued some vague concept of the workers being more dedicated, loyal and industrious. Even if that were true (and I don't think it is. actually, I think the contrary is true), what does that really mean to, say, a pizza place owner? Their business does not depend on the motivation of their employees (unless it's incredibly low, in which case, you can fire them and rehire others). It depends on how many people call and order pizzas. That's it. Nothing else. It doesn't matter how "happy" the employee is if no one is ordering pizzas.

So basically, it's an investment with no return. In fact, given the typical standard of service from those who have state-guaranteed benefits, from Senators to airport employees, it's a huge loss.

"Sticking it to the man" is a nice, satisfying way to soothe the pain of one's own failure and/or ineptitude, but in the end, the "man" is the one who provided your job to begin with. As such, you're only shooting yourself in the foot.






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Even if it's $.1 per employee, what is the employer getting in return?


More cost. And since employers don't eat costs, the costs will either be passed on to the customer in the form of higher prices or passed on to the employees in the form of cutting positions to balance the costs.

Let's say the restaurant has 50 waiters making $3.50/hr in paid wages (no idea if that's the current waitstaff pay, just plugging a reasonable number in) and they all work about 20 hours per week, that's an extra $10 per week or an extra $520 per year that the business is expected to eat.

That doesn't sound like much and it's not. But then again, it's not the actual cost either. If the report I heard was correct then the math looks more like this:

$1.50 * 20 hours = +$30 per employee per week * 50 employees = $150 per week.

Now each employee makes a salary of $70/week ($3.50 * 20 hours) so already the owner is paying an extra cost equivalent to paying two extra employees to do nothing every week.

Again, this is all conjecture until/unless I can find where the data came from, but if it's anything close to accurate it's scary as hell.






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More cost. And since employers don't eat costs, the costs will either be passed on to the customer in the form of higher prices or passed on to the employees in the form of cutting positions to balance the costs.


I wish more people understood that.






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"look...we just can't pay you 30k a year plus benefits to mop a papa johns...And we aren't at all sorry."


Psst! Papa John's doesn't pay their managers 30k a year. How the hell can you say "moppers" make that kind of money?






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Decreased quality of work staff. Sign me up!





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"look...we just can't pay you 30k a year plus benefits to mop a papa johns...And we aren't at all sorry."


Psst! Papa John's doesn't pay their managers 30k a year. How the hell can you say "moppers" make that kind of money?




As a restaurant manager I can tell you that most people who have never worked for a restaurant are oblivious to the costs associated. I don't mean that as an insult to anyone. I've never worked on an oil rig so I do not know the costs associated with that. Currently I average about $1.06 per guest in profit. That is after everything is paid for such as licenses, maintenance, insurance (liability, workman's comp), etc. The wiggle room in that profit margin is very small imo. I'm already getting hammered on the price of food and beer and having to pass those costs on to my guests. I can only imagine how these new healthcare costs are going to hit me. Before you say I don't care about my employees you are dead wrong. I'd love for all of my employees to be making a decent wage and have insurance for them and their families. This is going to be a swift kick to the nuts especially to mom and pop places.


BTW: A lot of restaurants actually pay their managers very well. It is a tough job and you've got to pay to keep the good managers.






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drives the quality of your workforce
yep. most people that work in pizza parlors would be in fortunre 500s....if it wasnt for the great benefits in the pizza business.






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Decreased quality of work staff. Sign me up!


Its a friecking Pizza Parlor. ONOZ!!!!






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Why not show a little more compassion for your employees? I don't begrudge them the right to make profits, but my approach to management is to consider my employees my most valuable asset. As an aside, when I was in college way back in the 1970's, I worked part time at a family run pizza joint and they provided employees with health insurance!





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Why not show a little more compassion for your employees?


It's not a charity. It's low skill work that any idjit can do.

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As an aside, when I was in college way back in the 1970's, I worked part time at a family run pizza joint and they provided employees with health insurance!


OMG! NO WAY!

In the 1970's, cost of living, the price of doing business (less regulation), and health insurance was a hell of a lot cheaper. Nice story though.






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I also spent a few years as a manager in a fast food restaurant and although the work was not high-skill we recognized that paying more for hard-working, contientious emplyees vs the "idjit" reflected positively on our bottom line (increased productivity).

Your understanding of the concept of inflation is admirable but a bit off target. Everything was less; salaries (min wage = $1.35 /hr), rent, utilities, ingredients, cost of pizzas and net profits. However, percent return on investment within the industry has likely changed little.






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paying more for hard-working, contientious emplyees


I agree, but they're not so easy to find now a days. It's hard to find people that show up for their shifts.

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Your understanding of the concept of inflation is admirable but a bit off target. Everything was less; salaries (min wage = $1.35 /hr), rent, utilities, ingredients, cost of pizzas and net profits. However, percent return on investment within the industry has likely changed little.


We're talking about health insurance you idjit.



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