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CarrolltonTiger
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Can't say anything that positive about your manhood.


Not sure why I should care what the CITWTT of the left thinks about my manhood.






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Ace Midnight
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Blacks use soft power/peer pressure fairly effectively to enforce block voting patterns. This is a survival instinct they developed during slavery/reconstruction/"separate-but-equal"/Jim Crow/Civil Rights Era.

IMHO, this instinct is failing them in the "post-racial" era, because, frankly, as a group, African Americans are going backwards. What few gains they have made, have paled in the face of continued failing schools, failed political leaders, failed families, just a whole lot of failures overwhelming the successes they've had.

The black middle class is still a fairly reliable voting block for democratic candidates and causes, despite being at odds with the progressive agenda -

1.) African Americans have had some of their greatest successes in the US military - a true meritocracy, certainly well in advance of the Civil Rights movement of the 60s and Affirmative Action.

2.) As a group, blacks do not, by and large, support the progressive gay rights agenda. In particular, they object to the false parallels between this agenda and the African American civil rights movement.

3.) Prior to the "no man in the house rule" of the Great Society, the strength of the African American community was in their families and churches - places where they always held a certain amount of sovereignty, as opposed to (white) government run schools and other government agencies. That has been destroyed and black illegitimacy is, by far, the rule rather than the exception. While not being judgmental, this is one of the key risk factors for poverty (and if you're already poor, AND born to a single mom, your lifelong poverty ticket is all but punched).

4.) African American political leadership, particularly at the local/city level, overwhelmingly democratic by party, has been an abject failure, almost without exception.

5.) African American unemployment, always a problem due to their general concentration in poor neighborhoods, with poor educational systems, has skyrocketed and the only thing democratic politicians ever offer is some form of welfare/wealth redistribution/affirmative action.

Change comes slowly in the community, but I see some positive signs. Republicans have posted an African American male and female SECSTATE, an RNC head, a frontrunner (briefly) for the nomination, as well as a handful of governors and congressmen. Most pastors in the community espouse generally conservative political views and African Americans with military backgrounds also tend to be more conservative.

The bottom line, however, is that the voting pattern has to shift - again, 80/20 or 70/30 would be enough to show that race-baiting, by itself, won't turn an election and perhaps the real issues - political corruption, urban renewal and economic recovery are the biggest issues that, if addressed, will enhance the lives of the vast majority of the community, rather than continuing to chase phantoms of racism and oppression, "Mr. Charlie", the "man", whitey, that have long since ceased to be an issue - other than as a weapon or catchphrase used by the race hustlers to generate the Pavlovian response in the community to vote "D".





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Roaad
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People on here thinks it's b/c of some free handouts from the gov't
because it is.

Affirmative Action is a government handout.

African American entitlement programs are handouts.

Food Stamps are handouts.

etc.

Most of the AA community votes based on the above metric. Socially, AA's are hyper-conservative, so that is obviously ignored






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Republicans, since their founding in 1854, have always been the more pro-Civil Rights of the two parties. And yet, over the last 50 years or so, the Republican Party has become known as the white man's party.


1) Revisionist History
2) See FDR's vision. The man was ahead of his time. He knew he could enslave that population and he did. He succeeded admirably. It took nearly 100 years but it came to be.

Congrats to them!






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TxTiger82
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Republicans, since their founding in 1854, have always been the more pro-Civil Rights of the two parties.


The GOP ceased to become the party of blacks when they abandoned reconstruction in exchange for the Hayes presidency. This led to the rise of the robber-baron age, and the GOP gradually became more and more associated with corporate interests rather than civil rights. This culiminated with McKinley - the first corporatist president.

Of course, the opposition (Bryan's populists) were not pro-civil rights. On the contrary, they were quite racist in many ways. Wilson was too.






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Roaad
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re: How did Republicans lose African-Americans?


The GOP was pro-business even during Reconstruction.

The fact is, blacks began swinging to the dems during the FDR presidency, not Hayes.

LBJ is when they became full-on democrat voters. History bears that out.






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TxTiger82
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LBJ is when they became full-on democrat voters.


Sure but this is complicated by Jim Crow laws which disenfranchised blacks after reconstruction ended.

Perhaps I am guilty of historical regression, but I am just trying to trace back to the time when the GOP ceased to look out for specifically black interests.

Arguably, nobody was looking out for blacks in between Hayes and LBJ, with some local exceptions like the Longs.






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Roaad
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Perhaps I am guilty of historical regression, but I am just trying to trace back to the time when the GOP ceased to look out for specifically black interests.
Post reconstruction, neither party cared about blacks.

That is how Jim Crow laws came to be. . .the KKK was a democrat organization, but even the GOP was loathe to do anything about it.






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charlieg14
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KKK loves them some republican party.





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mikelowery1911
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Bobby Jindal said something last week that really resonated with me and members of my family:

"If we want people to like us, we have to like them first. You don't start to like people by insulting them by saying their votes were bought."






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Roaad
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KKK loves them some republican party.
LINK

I see that listed nowhere.






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Jim Rockford
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Bobby Jindal said something last week that really resonated with me and members of my family:

"If we want people to like us, we have to like them first. You don't start to like people by insulting them by saying their votes were bought."


Yea, the "you stupid lazy SOB's, why don't you vote for us?" tends not to work so well. Talk radio and message board memes are great for firing up the hard core base. They're a millstone around the GOP's neck when it comes to trying to appeal to everyone else.






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Roaad
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If the GOP had the MSM and Hollywood carrying water for them, none of that would matter.

Blacks don't listen to talk radio, for the most part.

As far as message boards, no political message board is loonier than DailyKos, so. . .






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AustinTigr
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THE OP HAS THE SAME QUESTION I'VE HAD FOR YEARS!

You show me an old picture of white men standing under a lynching tree, and I bet you my last dollar they were Democrats!!!

Why in the world African-Americans don't vote Republican is beyond me. BTW, the Democrat party is far and away the most racist institution in these United States!!



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trackfan
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You show me an old picture of white men standing under a lynching tree, and I bet you my last dollar they were Democrats!!!

Why in the world African-Americans don't vote Republican is beyond me.

When those pictures were taken, Blacks voted overwhelmingly Republican. Things changed. Read a history book man.






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RogerTheShrubber
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They're a millstone around the GOP's neck when it comes to trying to appeal to everyone else.


Pretty sure libs pay more attention to that stuff than mainstream GOP'ers.






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RogerTheShrubber
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KKK loves them some republican party.



Some people need to come out of the dark ages, and I am not referring to the two listed above. The KKK is yesterdays news.







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