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re: Not a good batting average for Palestinians


What's your point?





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NC_Tigah
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Yet all of those countries - Lebanon, Syria, Jordan have taken in the instant 700,000+ refugees after the 1948 war.

Well then tell us this - why won't Israel let all of those Palestinian refugees back into Israel proper? Lands and properties they own, and have owned for centuries.
That one's on Israel IMO.








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That one's on Israel IMO.


So 1948 bothers you but the zionist ethnic cleansing activities in the occupied territories since 1967 don't bother you?






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NC_Tigah
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So 1948 bothers you but the zionist ethnic cleansing activities in the occupied territories since 1967 don't bother you?
All that bothers me CT. To the victor go the spoils. It is not pretty, neither is war. It has always been that way. It always will be that way. Israel has its warts. It has its ugly scars. Acknowledged.

The Palestinians took on strategy cementing their losses though. In trying to attach all blame to Israel, they've severely limited remedy. Again, what role in Palestinian support have the 1967 and 1973 aggressor/losers played? Where is Arab accountability?







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Instead of taking the spoils of war from the losers and giving them Bavaria, they condemned them to neverending war in the Mideast. Don't forget, the U.S. refused a ship of Jewish refugees when they were searching for a home.
The Middle East was spoils of war. You just have the wrong war. There was also a 30 year delay, but make no mistake the British and the French chose who was going to rule the former Ottoman territories. By waiting until after WWII their decisions were ratified by the United Nations instead of the League of Nations. And whether you like it or not, the Jews preferred Israel to Bavaria.






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Geauxrilla Ballz
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So if Iran nukes Israel, then the Palestinians would be the victors and get the spoils?

I don't think that is a good policy.






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So if Iran nukes Israel, then the Palestinians would be the victors and get the spoils?

I don't think that is a good policy.


Iran isn't going to nuke Israel to "liberate" the Palestinians (Palestians are Sunni and Arab - Persian Shi'as couldn't care less) - they're going to do it to release the 12th Imam to fulfill prophecy.



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i'm sure if you lived in Israel you would see them as more than a nuisance


If he lived in Israel, he'd be the one firing rockets at them.






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Ehud Barak once said, "If I were a Palestinian of the right age, I would join, at some point, one of the terrorist groups."

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CarrolltonTiger
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Easy for him to say that because he does not love Jesus.





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OLDBEACHCOMBER
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CarrolltonTiger


You are the most clueless hack on this board, That includes REX.

Is Obama's diversion another World arse Kissing Apology Tour with Clinton?






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Are you serious?





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olgoi khorkhoi
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there's a reason no arab country would take in the "palestinian" refugees from the 6 day war.





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CarrolltonTiger
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there's a reason no arab country would take in the "palestinian" refugees from the 6 day war.



Fact is hundreds of thousands of them are in other countries. And why should other countries assist Israel in ethnic cleansing of people that do not want to leave their land for the chosen people?






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NC_Tigah
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And why should other countries assist Israel in ethnic cleansing of people that do not want to leave their land for the chosen people?
Because in instances of 1967 and 1973, their thwarted aggression was the sole reason the occupation you find so unpalatable exists?






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CarrolltonTiger
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Because in instances of 1967 and 1973, their thwarted aggression was the sole reason the occupation you find so unpalatable exists?


that makes no sense, but since you don't know jack about the ME that is not surprising.

Palestinians were not aggressors they have been victims since before 1948

you also have no grasp of international law






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trackfan
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Because in instances of 1967 and 1973, their thwarted aggression was the sole reason the occupation you find so unpalatable exists?

Israel launched the Six Day War in 1967, not the Palestinians or any other Arabs.






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Ace Midnight
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Israel launched the Six Day War in 1967, not the Palestinians or any other Arabs.



Technically, but they cannot be regarded as the aggressors in the conflict.






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Technically, but they cannot be regarded as the aggressors in the conflict.

Egypt blocked the Straits, but Israel siezed not only the Sinai from them, but also the West Bank and the Golan Heights from Jordan and Syria, respectively. The reason they attack the USS Liberty is to keep us from knowing that they were about to do more than settle scores with Egypt.






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The reason they attack the USS Liberty is to keep us from knowing that they were about to do more than settle scores with Egypt.


I understand the skepticism regarding the official accounts of the Liberty incident, but we knew they were about to nix the Egyptian Air Force - the only thing the Liberty was in a position to do was monitor that - we gave them the critical intel to do the operation and were fairly well informed. The whole "false flag" is a better theory of an ulterior motive for the "friendly fire" incident than the "blind the US", although I don't necessarily subscribe to that one either.

What they were risking, in terms of long-term US support, versus any short-term gain (and whether it was to blind us or draw us into the conflict on their side, formally, militarily - neither worked so it was a failure if it was not an accident) just makes it unlikely.

I tend to go with Occam's Razor when I look at something like the Liberty (although I know the crew and families, by and large, do not - and I respect that).

In any event, Israel should not be regarded as the aggressors in 1967.






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