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boxcar willie 
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| re: What is the GOP angling for on Benghazi? (Posted on 11/14/12 at 9:45 pm to City)
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Mortars are military armaments. Those are not household goods, as much as you'd like to assert they are.
didn't they just have a civil war? They may be more of a household good than you would expect
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StrangeBrew
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| re: What is the GOP angling for on Benghazi? (Posted on 11/14/12 at 9:47 pm to boxcar willie)
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or is it a tragic security issue that needs to be looked into by serious people and not by people who are trying to score political points
Funding, they just need more funding! You do not get to make these decisions. The loss of four Americans in fact and widely known, thus it gets to be vetted in public.
When the 4 at Kent State were murdered do you think it woudl be a good idea to conduct the investigation in private by "serious" people?
GTFO
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boxcar willie
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kenner
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| re: What is the GOP angling for on Benghazi? (Posted on 11/14/12 at 9:50 pm to StrangeBrew)
other than 4 people getting killed, how is Kent state anything like Benghazi? If 4 people die in a car wreck, is it like Benghazi also? There is no correlation
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City
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| re: What is the GOP angling for on Benghazi? (Posted on 11/14/12 at 9:55 pm to boxcar willie)
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or is it a tragic security issue that needs to be looked into by serious people and not by people who are trying to score political points
A tragedy indeed. Signs point to these being avoidable casualties. Requests for increased security had been made, and concerns about safety had been voiced by the consulate in Benghazi in the days before the 9/11 anniversary. Those requests and concerns were not regarded with any urgency, and no additional personnel were assigned to the location. The attack that happened on 9/11 was viewed in real-time through the cameras in the consulate, as well as surveillance drones above.
Why, when the president and all personnel involved, could see exactly what happened before and during the attack...did they lie to the media about what happened?
The political points have already been scored. Obama shifting this whole thing to the week after the election was the scoring drive. Dead ball foul. Penalty will be assessed on the kickoff...
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DaGarun 
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| re: What is the GOP angling for on Benghazi? (Posted on 11/14/12 at 10:02 pm to boxcar willie)
The whole story. Some explanation for the families of the deceased that their loved ones didn't die in vain. The truth. The (soon to be labeled "racist") truth. That's all...
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boxcar willie
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kenner
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| re: What is the GOP angling for on Benghazi? (Posted on 11/14/12 at 10:12 pm to City)
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A tragedy indeed. Signs point to these being avoidable casualties. Requests for increased security had been made, and concerns about safety had been voiced by the consulate in Benghazi in the days before the 9/11 anniversary. Those requests and concerns were not regarded with any urgency, and no additional personnel were assigned to the location
that needs to be looked into. It is a security matter.
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The attack that happened on 9/11 was viewed in real-time through the cameras in the consulate, as well as surveillance drones above.
proving what? Were the drones armed?
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Why, when the president and all personnel involved, could see exactly what happened before and during the attack...did they lie to the media about what happened?
What do you believe they told the media that was a lie?
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The political points have already been scored. Obama shifting this whole thing to the week after the election was the scoring drive. Dead ball foul. Penalty will be assessed on the kickoff...
When Bush was in office, i hated when democrats tried to score lame political points. Now that Obama is in office, i equally think it's pitiful that Republicans just want to score political points.
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kingbob
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| re: What is the GOP angling for on Benghazi? (Posted on 11/14/12 at 10:21 pm to boxcar willie)
According to the timeline that has been released, the president knew within 2 hours of the attack. They had a drone overhead sending a live feed. There were strike teams armed with helicopters an hour's copter flight away. A couple retired Navy SEALS held off the aggressors for over 7 HOURS before being taken out by mortar rounds. They had been using lasers to paint the targets for air support which they were assured was incoming but never arrived. The CIA had a strike team blocks away with dozens of heavily armed agents who sat there and never made an attempt to rescue the ambassador. This is negligence.
Either our government, military, and intelligence agencies are so grossly incompetent so as to allow those 4 Americans to die with multiple possibilities of rescue available, or (and this is my favorite) our assets were ordered to stand down and those people were allowed to die for some specific purpose.
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City
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Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2005
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| re: What is the GOP angling for on Benghazi? (Posted on 11/14/12 at 10:25 pm to boxcar willie)
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proving what? Were the drones armed
No, you reaching bastard. That there was additional video feed of the entire area, not just the cameras at the consulate.
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Why, when the president and all personnel involved, could see exactly what happened before and during the attack...did they lie to the media about what happened?
What do you believe they told the media that was a lie?
frick. Really? That they knew exactly what happened (they watched it happen real-time) and blamed a fricking YouTube video. They knew it wasn't a protest. They saw that it wasn't a protest. Yet, they sent people out to speak to the media to claim that it was stemmed from a protest (knowing that was a lie).
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redandright
Member since Jun 2011
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| re: What is the GOP angling for on Benghazi? (Posted on 11/15/12 at 6:20 am to boxcar willie)
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didn't they have people over there saying they were offended by the video. Weren't they tweeting that at the time? It was planned, but the video added feul to the fire.
Troll Much?
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nobodytooimportant
Member since Oct 2012
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| re: What is the GOP angling for on Benghazi? (Posted on 11/15/12 at 6:20 am to kingbob)
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According to the timeline that has been released, the president knew within 2 hours of the attack. They had a drone overhead sending a live feed. There were strike teams armed with helicopters an hour's copter flight away. A couple retired Navy SEALS held off the aggressors for over 7 HOURS before being taken out by mortar rounds. They had been using lasers to paint the targets for air support which they were assured was incoming but never arrived. The CIA had a strike team blocks away with dozens of heavily armed agents who sat there and never made an attempt to rescue the ambassador. This is negligence.
What timeline did you read? First the attack on the consulate lasted about 2 hours, the rescue team arrived on site about an hour after it started and left an hour later. There was a pause then a 15 minute attack at the other site 6 hours later. There were more people then just a couple of navy seals during the attack.
Please tell me exactly where this strike team was? The closest place I could find reference to a team was Signolla Italy, 400 miles away. Beyond being outside the combat radius of a blackhawk, it would take a blackhawk over 2 hours to get there, which would be too late even if somehow it was magically ready to go with armed people the second the attack began.
Hell it took 4 hours to get a team from tripoli to Benghazi, and it then took another 3 hours before the libyans let them leave the airport.
No lasers were ever pointed at anything.
The strike team you reference blocks away was exactly what was used to rescue people, so for you to say they did nothing just proves you have no clue what you are talking about.
As to your conspiracy that Obama let them die and ordered everyone to stand down. What would he gain from this. Here is the thing with conspiracies (besides being very hard to pull off), there has to be a point to them, the conspirators have to hope to gain something. What did Obama hope to gain? He sure as hell doesn't want to put troops in Libya.
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TrueTiger
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| re: What is the GOP angling for on Benghazi? (Posted on 11/15/12 at 6:39 am to boxcar willie)
Just helping the American people really get to know their president, in depth. You know, the Woodward and Bernstein model of journalism.
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CITWTT
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Member since Sep 2005
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| re: What is the GOP angling for on Benghazi? (Posted on 11/15/12 at 6:44 am to boxcar willie)
Could something as simple as the truth of the matter be considered as a goal. The lying factory was humming along smoothly after only a few hours, and still rears its ugly head now. Yes, someones head should roll for this debacle, but every stone should be overturned in the clear light of day. It is rather interesting that Hilz and Panneta both ran off to OZ in the timeline of hearings. Drinking wine down under is a so much more important task than getting roasted by Congress about your actions before and at the time of the attacks, and certainly in the aftermath when the lies were coming fast and furiously from DC.
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Homesick Tiger
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Member since Nov 2006
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| re: What is the GOP angling for on Benghazi? (Posted on 11/15/12 at 6:47 am to boxcar willie)
Maybe they want Obama to reimburse the $70,000 he wasted on that bogus arse apology ad him and Hillary made to the towelheads of the ME.
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nobodytooimportant
Member since Oct 2012
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| re: What is the GOP angling for on Benghazi? (Posted on 11/15/12 at 6:50 am to Homesick Tiger)
Little hint if you want people to take you seriously probably using racist language in your posts isn't an ideal thing.
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Lsut81
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| re: What is the GOP angling for on Benghazi? (Posted on 11/15/12 at 6:59 am to boxcar willie)
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Heard Linsey Graham (Reb. senator Georgia) say this shows 'leading from behind' is bad policy and that the American people deserve to know what happened?
Kucinich says the same thing... 
I don't see why anyone would be against knowing the truth.
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OLDBEACHCOMBER
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| re: What is the GOP angling for on Benghazi? (Posted on 11/15/12 at 7:38 am to boxcar willie)
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What is the GOP angling for on Benghazi?
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Secondly, they knew this was a planned assault and the video had not a damned thing to do with it.
didn't they have people over there saying they were offended by the video. Weren't they tweeting that at the time? It was planned, but the video added feul to the fire.
Box, Please stop!
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TigerJeff
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Member since Oct 2006
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| re: What is the GOP angling for on Benghazi? (Posted on 11/15/12 at 7:41 am to boxcar willie)
the truth? Figuring out why 4 Americans were left hanging? 
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themunch
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| re: What is the GOP angling for on Benghazi? (Posted on 11/15/12 at 8:41 am to boxcar willie)
No justice No peace
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CITWTT
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baton rouge
Member since Sep 2005
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| re: What is the GOP angling for on Benghazi? (Posted on 11/15/12 at 8:48 am to Lsut81)
Uh South Carolina.
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ScoopAndScore
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| re: What is the GOP angling for on Benghazi? (Posted on 11/15/12 at 8:52 am to boxcar willie)
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4 dead in Benghazi is a tradgedy but they seem to be after something that they deem to be big.
4 Americans dead including the US Ambassador to Libya IS freaking big. And this Administration trying to sweep it under the rug is big too. Shameful. Every American should be pressing on this.
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