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joshnorris14  Florida Fan Florida Member since Jan 2009 19533 posts

| re: obama proposing 1.6T in new revenue (Posted on 11/13/12 at 11:43 pm to tdt)
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some big corps are having demand problems right now, many of them might actually benefit from less cash on hand if their buyers had more
Never go full retard.
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CollegeFBRules  LSU Fan Member since Oct 2008 18107 posts

| re: obama proposing 1.6T in new revenue (Posted on 11/13/12 at 11:43 pm to ZZTIGERS)
Ah, ZZ, good to see you still around, my friend.
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RogerTheShrubber  LSU Fan Juneau, AK Member since Jan 2009 71862 posts

| re: obama proposing 1.6T in new revenue (Posted on 11/13/12 at 11:44 pm to tdt)
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People buying their stuff.
Well you may can imagine what will happen once those corporations are taxed even more.
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Scruffy  USA Fan Team Hugo Stiglitz 4 Life Member since Jul 2011 17621 posts

| re: obama proposing 1.6T in new revenue (Posted on 11/13/12 at 11:45 pm to tdt)
All this "over ten years" crap is just so they appear to be doing something while just kicking the can down the road. The people who buy these empty gestures are morons.
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Tigah in the ATL  LSU Fan Atlanta Member since Feb 2005 20589 posts

| re: obama proposing 1.6T in new revenue (Posted on 11/13/12 at 11:49 pm to tdt)
so .16T per year. Yeah that'll do it.
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ZZTIGERS Member since Dec 2007 10030 posts

| re: obama proposing 1.6T in new revenue (Posted on 11/13/12 at 11:50 pm to CollegeFBRules)
This place is like Praire View football in the 90s. I know the result coming in, but maybe, just maybe this day will be different. The Poli Board is bound to break its 80 game losing streak sooner or later, and I wanna be here to celebrate when it happens 
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Scruffy  USA Fan Team Hugo Stiglitz 4 Life Member since Jul 2011 17621 posts

| re: obama proposing 1.6T in new revenue (Posted on 11/13/12 at 11:50 pm to Tigah in the ATL)
Sarcasm? I just have to make sure.
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Tigah in the ATL  LSU Fan Atlanta Member since Feb 2005 20589 posts

| re: obama proposing 1.6T in new revenue (Posted on 11/13/12 at 11:50 pm to Aubie Spr96)
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please stop referring to taxes as "revenues".
Internal Revenue Service should stop as well? You should send them a letter.
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dr smartass phd  LSU Fan Pennsylvania Member since Sep 2004 10221 posts

| re: obama proposing 1.6T in new revenue (Posted on 11/13/12 at 11:51 pm to tdt)
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some big corps are having demand problems right now, many of them might actually benefit from less cash on hand if their buyers had more

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CollegeFBRules  LSU Fan Member since Oct 2008 18107 posts

| re: obama proposing 1.6T in new revenue (Posted on 11/13/12 at 11:52 pm to ZZTIGERS)
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The Poli Board is bound to break its 80 game losing streak sooner or later, and I wanna be here to celebrate when it happens
That ain't gonna happen, but it's like being in a crazy house where the patients can't touch you. I know I'm one of the them, that I share a portion of he crazies just like the others taking up residence with me, but I can't shake the thought that I'm not quite as crazy as the rest of them, therefore I can laugh and revel at their ignorance.
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LSUSaintsHornets  LSU Fan Slidell LA Member since Feb 2008 5515 posts

| re: obama proposing 1.6T in new revenue (Posted on 11/13/12 at 11:52 pm to tdt)
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some big corps are having demand problems right now, many of them might actually benefit from less cash on hand if their buyers had more
This is one of the most absurd things I have read on this site. Ever.
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Tigah in the ATL  LSU Fan Atlanta Member since Feb 2005 20589 posts

| re: obama proposing 1.6T in new revenue (Posted on 11/13/12 at 11:52 pm to Scruffy)
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Sarcasm?
no no no I have been pretty open that I do not believe any politician is capable of moving the deficit. I think all their plans are: pray for a Clinton-like recovery.
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Tigah in the ATL  LSU Fan Atlanta Member since Feb 2005 20589 posts

| re: obama proposing 1.6T in new revenue (Posted on 11/13/12 at 11:53 pm to CollegeFBRules)
And let's be clear that a tax cut will not reduce the deficit.
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RogerTheShrubber  LSU Fan Juneau, AK Member since Jan 2009 71862 posts

| re: obama proposing 1.6T in new revenue (Posted on 11/13/12 at 11:54 pm to ZZTIGERS)
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This place is like Praire View football in the 90s. I know the result coming in, but maybe, just maybe this day will be different. The Poli Board is bound to break its 80 game losing streak sooner or later, and I wanna be here to celebrate when it happens

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THRILLHO  New Orleans Saints Fan New Orleans, LA Member since Apr 2006 25311 posts

| re: obama proposing 1.6T in new revenue (Posted on 11/13/12 at 11:55 pm to Tigah in the ATL)
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And let's be clear that a tax cut will not reduce the deficit.
How is that clear?
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CollegeFBRules  LSU Fan Member since Oct 2008 18107 posts

| re: obama proposing 1.6T in new revenue (Posted on 11/13/12 at 11:58 pm to Tigah in the ATL)
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And let's be clear that a tax cut will not reduce the deficit.
Can we be clear on which side of the equation creates a deficit?
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JohnnyKilroy  North Carolina Fan Member since Oct 2012 5134 posts

| re: obama proposing 1.6T in new revenue (Posted on 11/14/12 at 12:06 am to tdt)
sig'd
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tdt Member since Nov 2012 477 posts

| re: obama proposing 1.6T in new revenue (Posted on 11/14/12 at 12:15 am to JohnnyKilroy)
man i got burned so bad
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Decatur  LSU Fan Member since Mar 2007 14879 posts

| re: obama proposing 1.6T in new revenue (Posted on 11/14/12 at 12:35 am to tdt)
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some big corps are having demand problems right now, many of them might actually benefit from less cash on hand if their buyers had more
You know I see a lot of people here scoffing at your statement but I haven't seen a single one offer anything to rebut your statement. For example, I haven't seen anyone here offer anything that might contradict something like this:
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NEW YORK—The Federal Reserve Bank of New York today released Why Small Businesses Were Hit Harder by the Recent Recession, the latest article in the Current Issues in Economics and Finance series from the Research and Statistics Group. Uncertainty about economic conditions and poor sales were the main reasons why small firms experienced steeper job declines than large firms during the 2007-09 downturn, according to analysis in the article. Furthermore, although tightened access to credit and adverse financial conditions also constrained small firms, a more pressing factor was the decline in new investment and associated financing brought on by low consumer demand for the firms’ products and services. Between December 2007 and December 2009, jobs declined 10.4 percent in small firms (those with fewer than fifty employees), compared with 7.5 percent in large ones. In this article, Aysegül Sahin, Sagiri Kitao, Anna Cororaton and Sergiu Laiu seek to account for the downturn’s disproportionate effect on small firms. The authors review data on employment patterns and industry composition of firms by size. They also explore possible links between credit availability and firm performance by analyzing national surveys and established data series on economic activity and business conditions. The authors determine that industry composition of job losses fails to explain the deeper job declines among small firms, as these businesses were hit harder than large ones regardless of industry. And while some small firms indeed experienced limited credit availability, this factor was a secondary driver of the difficulties they encountered. Rather, the authors concluded that demand factors—notably, economic uncertainty and poor sales owing to reduced consumer demand—were the most important reasons for the weak performance and sluggish recovery of small firms.
LINK I'm not saying anyone here can't support their arguments but it seems a little cheap of them not to provide sourcing for their complaints
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Draconian Sanctions  LSU Fan San Francisco 49ers Fan Member since Oct 2008 28250 posts

| re: obama proposing 1.6T in new revenue (Posted on 11/14/12 at 12:40 am to tdt)
He definitely needs to accompany this with major entitlement reform and tax code reform. This should be about everybody doing their part, from top to bottom, to do something about the deficit.
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