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To be honest, the best person Mathieu could've talked to wasn't Lucas...
Posted on 10/26/12 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 10/26/12 at 12:43 pm
or anyone else in rehab...
It was Ryan Perrilloux. Or perhaps Cecil Collins. Because ultimately, I don't think Mathieu has a problem with drugs. I think Mathieu has decision-making problems. He doesn't have the ability to make good decisions regarding who to surround himself with.
Forget geography. Its got to be a mental choice to do the right thing. Whether its Baton Rouge, Bay St. Louis, or Barataria Bay, drugs and bad character type folks are everywhere. Changing geography doesn't fix your problem.
The problem's up top. Between the ears. In his head.
The same kinds that Perrilloux had. Just being a simple idiot. Not realizing that you have the world by the short-and-curlies...and for your failure to appreciate the situation you find yourself in, the world reverses things to the point where your nuts are in a sling.
Perrilloux had the world in his hands. He let it all slip away. Yet he's actually worked his way back in a sense.
As a RS Sophomore w/2 starts under his belt, all we knew was that he had NFL talent. Nobody knows whether the kid could've been a starter in the league.
But this guy got kicked off a preseason Top 5 defending National Champion without even playing in the Spring. He went to Jacksonville State and toiled in literal obscurity. After that, nobody took a shot on him in the NFL.
He had to earn it the hard way after leaving Jax-State. He played in the UFL and eventually got his shot with a very respected, well-run organization in New York. He's now a backup/practice squad quarterback and has eeked out a career on the fringe of the NFL.
Considering where we thought he'd end up immediately after his departure from LSU, that's farther than any of us probably figured he'd make it in life, much less the League.
Mathieu would've done well to go talk to RP and find out just how spectacularly and quickly it can all go wrong. Who knows, maybe we did try to put them in touch with one another.
But I think RP's a fantastic case-study for a guy who-even though he's not starting or even playing-defied the odds of the college football star/headcase.
It was Ryan Perrilloux. Or perhaps Cecil Collins. Because ultimately, I don't think Mathieu has a problem with drugs. I think Mathieu has decision-making problems. He doesn't have the ability to make good decisions regarding who to surround himself with.
Forget geography. Its got to be a mental choice to do the right thing. Whether its Baton Rouge, Bay St. Louis, or Barataria Bay, drugs and bad character type folks are everywhere. Changing geography doesn't fix your problem.
The problem's up top. Between the ears. In his head.
The same kinds that Perrilloux had. Just being a simple idiot. Not realizing that you have the world by the short-and-curlies...and for your failure to appreciate the situation you find yourself in, the world reverses things to the point where your nuts are in a sling.
Perrilloux had the world in his hands. He let it all slip away. Yet he's actually worked his way back in a sense.
As a RS Sophomore w/2 starts under his belt, all we knew was that he had NFL talent. Nobody knows whether the kid could've been a starter in the league.
But this guy got kicked off a preseason Top 5 defending National Champion without even playing in the Spring. He went to Jacksonville State and toiled in literal obscurity. After that, nobody took a shot on him in the NFL.
He had to earn it the hard way after leaving Jax-State. He played in the UFL and eventually got his shot with a very respected, well-run organization in New York. He's now a backup/practice squad quarterback and has eeked out a career on the fringe of the NFL.
Considering where we thought he'd end up immediately after his departure from LSU, that's farther than any of us probably figured he'd make it in life, much less the League.
Mathieu would've done well to go talk to RP and find out just how spectacularly and quickly it can all go wrong. Who knows, maybe we did try to put them in touch with one another.
But I think RP's a fantastic case-study for a guy who-even though he's not starting or even playing-defied the odds of the college football star/headcase.
This post was edited on 10/26/12 at 12:45 pm
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Posted on 10/26/12 at 12:47 pm to GFunk
:nb4tl;dr: 
Posted on 10/26/12 at 12:48 pm to GFunk
That would assume that those two individuals have learned from their travails and would pass on their acquired wisdom. Not sure that is a sound assumption.
Posted on 10/26/12 at 12:49 pm to GFunk
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I don't think Mathieu has a problem with drugs
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I don't think
Posted on 10/26/12 at 12:51 pm to Methuselah
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That would assume that those two individuals have learned from their travails and would pass on their acquired wisdom. Not sure that is a sound assumption.
Posted on 10/26/12 at 12:51 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
He doesn't have a drug problem. The fact he went to rehab for weed is comical.
Posted on 10/26/12 at 12:55 pm to GFunk
He should have talked to someone who wasn't going to spill the beans on him, at the very least. Not that this is what broke him, but in my experience with an addicted to person and going to the rehab for a week with this person, you don't talk about that stuff in public. At least, not the details. I thought that was the purpose of the "anonymous" in Alcoholics Anonymous and related programs. Sure doesn't help a person in the public eye to have people spilling the beans on them. I don't understand Lucas talking about it to media at all.
Posted on 10/26/12 at 1:05 pm to GFunk
LSU people arranged for Mathieu to meet with Damien James. He was given a point blank example of a player who didn't take his opportunity seriously and is now sitting in jail b/c of the same type of stuff TM is going through. If he didn't take anything away from that meeting, then I don't know who could impress upon him the importance of staying out of trouble.
Posted on 10/26/12 at 1:07 pm to GFunk
Tiger Rant
Doesn't compute....wrong board
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Mathieu
Doesn't compute....wrong board
Posted on 10/26/12 at 1:12 pm to LSUChamp06
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He doesn't have a drug problem. The fact he went to rehab for weed is comical.
this is an ignorant statement
Posted on 10/26/12 at 1:18 pm to GFunk
Are you familiar with John Lucas' past?
Posted on 10/26/12 at 2:01 pm to LSUChamp06
quote:If he doesn't, then he is the single most stupid mf on this planet.
He doesn't have a drug problem
I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt on that and say it's not that.
Posted on 10/26/12 at 2:03 pm to RealityTiger
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If he doesn't, then he is the single most stupid mf on this planet.
I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt on that and say it's not that.
Posted on 10/26/12 at 2:06 pm to LSUChamp06
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He doesn't have a drug problem.
When you throw away the possibility of a stellar career over any drug, weed, alcohol, gambling whatever, you've got a problem. If you don't understand that, you are daft.
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The fact he went to rehab for weed is comical.
You obviously have no idea about addictions or how they work.
Posted on 10/26/12 at 2:08 pm to Gris Gris
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Gris Gris
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When you throw away the possibility of a stellar career over any drug, weed, alcohol, gambling whatever, you've got a problem. If you don't understand that, you are daft.
When you make any bad decision, I think critical thinking, reasoning, maturity & logic are bigger problems.
He got clean and detoxed obviously. He went back to it. It wasn't addiction. It was decision-making. A conscious decision. One that's all his own.
Posted on 10/26/12 at 2:10 pm to GFunk
another thread?
Posted on 10/26/12 at 2:13 pm to tigerbutt
TM7: Yo Cecil?
Diesel: What up brah?
TMY7: Can you tell me how to get off this stuff?
Diesel: I'm in jail brah
This thread is dumb! Next!
Diesel: What up brah?
TMY7: Can you tell me how to get off this stuff?
Diesel: I'm in jail brah
This thread is dumb! Next!
Posted on 10/26/12 at 2:14 pm to GFunk
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When you make any bad decision, I think critical thinking, reasoning, maturity & logic are bigger problems.
He got clean and detoxed obviously. He went back to it. It wasn't addiction. It was decision-making. A conscious decision. One that's all his own.
poor decision making is synonymous with drug addiction....everything in your post is part of it so youre basically splitting hairs by calling it anything other than addiction
Posted on 10/26/12 at 2:17 pm to redfieldk717
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redfieldk717
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poor decision making is synonymous with drug addiction....everything in your post is part of it so youre basically splitting hairs by calling it anything other than addiction
I think I have my doubts about his level of addiction if its to pot. Now decision-making? Impulse control? Of course he's got those issues. I just don't think he's feening for pot like some junkie.
I could be wrong though.
Posted on 10/26/12 at 2:19 pm to GFunk
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When you make any bad decision, I think critical thinking, reasoning, maturity & logic are bigger problems.
When you have an addiction, it's even hard to make the right choices.
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He got clean and detoxed obviously.
He may have gotten drugs out of his system, but he didn't ever get them out of his head. Addiction is not only physical. It's in the mind, too. Addicts also rationalize behavior. I call it "irrationalization". Many addicts detox and go back to drugs or alchohol. The feeling of being high can be addicting. Think about anorexics who "think" they're fat.
I had someone very close to me addicted to alcohol and gambling for many many years. He went to rehabs and programs a bazillion times and sometimes for months at a time. He was certainly detoxed by the time he came out. He'd last a few weeks, maybe even a month, but he always went back to both addictions. Every single time. He died this year. Just couldn't do it even with all the resources he had and all the "hitting rock bottoms" that he had. It finally killed him.
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