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medical marijuana
already an abused system and always in danger as longer as feds continue to threaten proscecution against lending institutions under the Controlled Substances Act






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Prominentwon
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Do they have a valid test to determine if someone is under influence or is it going to be up to police discretion?


This is a cop-out.

So we can put artificial hearts in humans.
We can make robots with AI
We can put an SUV on Mars...


But technology just can't figure out if someone is high on marijuana? What an elusive mystery!






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noonan
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But technology just can't figure out if someone is high on marijuana? What an elusive mystery!


Well, is there a way to or not?

I completely agree with him, is there any way to prove that a person was currently under the influence while driving?







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Prominentwon
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Just pointing out that its not going to be as simple as people voting for it.


that's exactly how simple it is. it's up for vote, if it passes, it's legal


You can bet the Feds are going to give these states some serious issues.

But these votes are a great first step until legalization and regulation can be determined/efficient.






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Pilot Tiger
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The feds apparantly aren't messing with places who are regulated properly according to their state laws





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saderade
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I agree the technology has to be upgraded. There is no way to tell if someone is high unless their eyes are bloodshot and they are pretty stoned. Urine tests can go back 30 day. I am not sure the accuracy of the blood from a time standpoint. Motor tests would be unreliable.





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Pilot Tiger
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You can bet the Feds are going to give these states some serious issues.
I doubt it.

My cousin speaks with the DEA and they have no interest or desire to bust dispensaries who are following their state regulations






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St Augustine
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have you read the law?


that's basically all it says. the vast majority of the law deals with the operation of distribution facilities.

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(b) NOTHING IN THIS SECTION IS INTENDED TO ALLOW DRIVING UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF MARIJUANA OR DRIVING WHILE IMPAIRED BY MARIJUANA OR TO SUPERSEDE STATUTORY LAWS RELATED TO DRIVING UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF MARIJUANA OR DRIVING WHILE IMPAIRED BY MARIJUANA, NOR SHALL THIS SECTION PREVENT THE STATE FROM ENACTING AND IMPOSING PENALTIES FOR DRIVING UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF OR WHILE IMPAIRED BY MARIJUANA.






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Well, is there a way to or not?

I completely agree with him, is there any way to prove that a person was currently under the influence while driving?




I don't know if there is or not. I'm not a cop and I don't smoke.

But every time one of these threads come up or I see stories with commenting about the same issue, they're insinuating that a determination on the spot is an impossibility. It just fits their anti-pot argument and that's why it's used so much.

I'm not talking about anyone in particular here.






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My cousin speaks with the DEA and they have no interest or desire to bust dispensaries who are following their state regulations


Then what are the issues in California?






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el Gaucho
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They better expand their prisons if they're gonna do that





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Pilot Tiger
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Then what are the issues in California?
either their laws suck or people aren't following the laws or a combination.

I'm not that familiar with it. All I know is what my cousin told me and that is that Colorado does a much better job of staying out of trouble with the feds






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noonan
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It just fits their anti-pot argument and that's why it's used so much. 


Im not anti pot at all. And I am probably the guy that brings up the question. And I never get an answer. Which is why I keep bringing it up.

eta: this is actually the first time I've even seen someone even acknowledge the question, but I was hoping for an answer.



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St Augustine
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But technology just can't figure out if someone is high on marijuana? What an elusive mystery!


Jesus Christ some of you are fricking dense. How is this in anyway a cop out?I'm not saying there can't be one. I'm simply saying that there SHOULD be a solid, objective, scientific way of determining if someone is presently high in a quick manner before it is legalized. I'm not saying DON'T develop the way, only that it should be enacted.







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Prominentwon
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And I never get an answer. Which is why I keep bringing it up.


Being that it's illegal at this point, there's really no reason to have a test, I would think.

If they suspect you're high on an illegal substance, then I'm sure they can just bring you right in, no?







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Napoleon
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I think once the other states see the influx in tax dollars they will follow suit. It's about time for the end of prohibition.







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Rouge
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The feds apparantly aren't messing with places who are regulated properly according to their state laws
i know they arent

they are telling the banks not to lend to the medical marijuana industry. hard to grow without substantial cash flow. hell, you can't even use credit/debit at those places because of the federal govt.






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Prominentwon
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Jesus Christ some of you are fricking dense. How is this in anyway a cop out?I'm not saying there can't be one. I'm simply saying that there SHOULD be a solid, objective, scientific way of determining if someone is presently high in a quick manner before it is legalized.


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I'm not talking about anyone in particular here.








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tigersownall
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Oh yeah. I'm stoned.





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noonan
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If they suspect you're high on an illegal substance, then I'm sure they can just bring you right in, no? 


In my very little knowledge about drugs of any kind, I have no idea if they can tell if you smoked weed that day rather than just that month. That's the question.






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