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re: USMNT WCQ Squad Selection Discussion (UPDATE: DONOVAN/SHEA OUT FOR BOTH MATCHES)

Posted on 10/9/12 at 7:08 pm to
Posted by Sheep
Neither here nor there
Member since Jun 2007
19476 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 7:08 pm to
Not calling in *at least* Beasley is criminal.

We have zero outside midfielders, which greatly hinders flexibility to make mid-match adjustments.

Beasley wouldn't be remotely disturbed by starting in these matches. He's seen it, he's done it. He's still one of the fastest players in the pool, and one of our best set piece takers.

Klinsmann is hell bent on playing "his style", winning games be damned.
Posted by rdw1690
Member since Mar 2010
6469 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 7:27 pm to
quote:

Klinsmann is hell bent on playing "his style", winning games be damned.

I can't imagine he stays if we don't qualify for the World Cup. We have the talent to do qualify so if we fail to, it has to fall on Klinsmann.
Posted by Keys Open Doors
In hiding with Tupac & XXXTentacion
Member since Dec 2008
31888 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 7:30 pm to
Knowing that Shea can't go, why wouldn't Klinsmann bring in someone like Gatt? I know Beasley has experience, but I haven't been impressed with him in a long time.

We need to score goals, and that means we need to have dynamic players in the game. Without Shea and Donovan (and without Jozy), a guy like Gatt would have helped. Now, I hope he plays Corona off the bench.

It's pathetic that our only non-central midfielders are Zusi, Kljestan, and Corona. In my ideal NT set-up, these guys wouldn't even be in my final 9 midfielders to make the team.

Posted by WarSlamEagle
Manchester United Fan
Member since Sep 2011
24611 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 7:33 pm to
Why Klinsmann isn't calling in replacements for Donovan and Shea blows my mind.
Posted by thenry712
Zasullia, Ukraine
Member since Nov 2008
15795 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 7:45 pm to
quote:

It's pathetic that our only non-central midfielders are Zusi, Kljestan, and Corona. In my ideal NT set-up, these guys wouldn't even be in my final 9 midfielders to make the team.



I don't have any problem with those three making a final squad, but only Zusi really plays as a wide midfielder in his club team setup.
Posted by Sheep
Neither here nor there
Member since Jun 2007
19476 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 8:05 pm to
quote:

I can't imagine he stays if we don't qualify for the World Cup.


Especially after I burn down US Soccer headquarters if that happens.

*note: the preceding message is written 100% in jest. Okay 96% in jest. But still.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
28419 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 8:34 pm to
quote:

Beasley wouldn't be remotely disturbed by starting in these matches. He's seen it, he's done it. He's still one of the fastest players in the pool, and one of our best set piece takers.

Since when is Beasley a set piece maestro?
Posted by Sheep
Neither here nor there
Member since Jun 2007
19476 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 8:47 pm to
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Since when is Beasley a set piece maestro?


He's not a "shot on goal" type from in front, but great at playing the ball in from set pieces on the side and corners. Serves a great ball....

I'd much rather have Bradley (and Kljestan, who's also a good set piece guy) use their size in the box.
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 9:27 pm to
quote:

Shea and Donovan are ruled out of qualifiers per twitter


Ok this shite is bananas.

EJ 2012
Jozy who?
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
28419 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 9:43 pm to
Ok, I'll admit, that Gordon goal was sick.
Posted by rdw1690
Member since Mar 2010
6469 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 9:56 pm to
quote:

Jozy Who?

Yeah that goal was sick. You know what would have been better though?
If he would have put it on frame when Wondo dropped off to him right in front of the fricking goal.
Posted by UASports23
Member since Nov 2009
24344 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 10:11 pm to
Really? We are rolling with 22?
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
29-24 #BlewDat
Member since Dec 2010
31060 posts
Posted on 10/10/12 at 12:25 am to
The good news is that we would have to try pretty hard to frick up in this group.

The key to advancing is a Guatemala-Jamaica draw. That would guarantee us advancing with just a win versus Antigua.
Posted by Interception
Member since Nov 2008
11089 posts
Posted on 10/10/12 at 1:33 am to
I can't believe we are even in this position?

Jurgen is a rigged German "Du Hurensohn"

Posted by inelishaitrust
Oxford, MS
Member since Jan 2008
26078 posts
Posted on 10/10/12 at 2:55 am to
quote:

It's pathetic that our only non-central midfielders are Zusi, Kljestan, and Corona.


Zusi and Kljestan would both probably prefer to play in the center as #10's. Zusi is extremely versatile. He's been playing as a left winger in SKC's 4-3-3 last I saw. (A function of the Bunbury injury) I think Kjlestan is a player who wouldn't have much value as a wide player. Where does he usually play for Anderlecht?
Posted by DB10_AFC
South Louisiana
Member since Jun 2012
7080 posts
Posted on 10/10/12 at 7:26 am to
quote:

Where does he usually play for Anderlecht?


Centrally I think.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
28419 posts
Posted on 10/10/12 at 7:45 am to
Sacha was played out wide against Italy. He didn't look comfortable there.
Posted by etm512
Mandeville, LA
Member since Aug 2005
20739 posts
Posted on 10/10/12 at 7:49 am to
Zusi played well out wide for us against Jamaica. After sleeping on it I'm not worried about him out there. Should be more than enough pairing up with Dolo (which they did extremely well last game) against A&B and Guat.

However, if Williams gets put in a wide role again I will start punting infants. He belongs at CDM and nowhere else.

Dempsey is much better up top withdrawn from the striker than out wide IMO. Is there any way Sacha can play LM? I must admit I am not familiar with this guy at all.

----------Howard----------
Dolo---Cameron----Boca-----Johnson
--------Williams-----------
Zusi-----Bradley-------Sacha?????
----------------Dempsey-------
------Gomez----------------
Posted by DB10_AFC
South Louisiana
Member since Jun 2012
7080 posts
Posted on 10/10/12 at 7:54 am to
quote:

Is there any way Sacha can play LM?
It will be just like starting Torres in the same position. He is a central midfielder but can play some out wide. How effectively remains to be seen.
Posted by etm512
Mandeville, LA
Member since Aug 2005
20739 posts
Posted on 10/10/12 at 8:20 am to
I have a really bad feeling we will see either Jones or Williams out wide.
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