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lsu31always 
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| re: The ATL Thread: Offseason Edition (Posted on 10/11/12 at 2:12 pm to SwampDonks)
I like angel but not high on having him when he is 36
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Robot Santa 
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| re: The ATL Thread: Offseason Edition (Posted on 10/11/12 at 2:16 pm to SwampDonks)
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In DOB's article today he suggests:
- Trading for Willingham (has two year left on his contract at $7M per)
- Signing Pagan to a 4 or 5 year deal at $9M per.
Thoughts?
Pagan would be a solid pickup. I'd rather not be paying him $9 million when he's 36 though.
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SwampDonks 
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| re: The ATL Thread: Offseason Edition (Posted on 10/11/12 at 2:26 pm to Robot Santa)
Agreed. I'd front load the shite out of any contract to Pagan while we have money now, and to save money when we need it for the younger guys in a couple years.
I could get down with those two moves. Will leave you with $7-8M, and I'd extend Prado and Heyward.
Would be four solid moves this offseason.
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hiltacular 
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| re: The ATL Thread: Offseason Edition (Posted on 10/11/12 at 3:05 pm to SwampDonks)
Chase headley. gimme gimme gimme.
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SwampDonks
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| re: The ATL Thread: Offseason Edition (Posted on 10/11/12 at 3:06 pm to hiltacular)
One could only pray.
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OBUDan 
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| re: The ATL Thread: Offseason Edition (Posted on 10/11/12 at 3:09 pm to SwampDonks)
Way too much money and too many years for Pagan.
But he'd be a nice addition.
Willingham would be too and fill the need for a right hand bat.
Any way we could find a way to get Headley would be fap worthy.
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SwampDonks
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| re: The ATL Thread: Offseason Edition (Posted on 10/11/12 at 3:14 pm to OBUDan)
I hate free agency, especially in this age of new television contracts and increasing payrolls.
Even if you want a player like Pagan, you have to pay high dollars. Sucks.
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Rohan2Reed
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| re: The ATL Thread: Offseason Edition (Posted on 10/11/12 at 3:15 pm to SwampDonks)
how much are y'all thinking Pagan is going to ask for?
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Robot Santa
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| re: The ATL Thread: Offseason Edition (Posted on 10/11/12 at 3:18 pm to SwampDonks)
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and I'd extend Prado and Heyward.
I am afraid we probably cost ourselves a boatload of money by not getting this done earlier.
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The White Lobster 
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| re: The ATL Thread: Offseason Edition (Posted on 10/11/12 at 3:25 pm to SwampDonks)
DOB loves Willingham.
I don't see the Twins trading him
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SwampDonks
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| re: The ATL Thread: Offseason Edition (Posted on 10/11/12 at 3:32 pm to The White Lobster)
You dangle young pitching at them, and I think they would trade him without thinking twice.
The price will be steep, though.
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lsu31always
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| re: The ATL Thread: Offseason Edition (Posted on 10/11/12 at 3:34 pm to Rohan2Reed)
8-9 per for 4-5 years
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Rohan2Reed
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| re: The ATL Thread: Offseason Edition (Posted on 10/11/12 at 3:35 pm to lsu31always)
If I was SF i'd offer him 10 mil per for 3 years.
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volfan30
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| re: The ATL Thread: Offseason Edition (Posted on 10/11/12 at 3:59 pm to The White Lobster)
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DOB loves Willingham.
This is an understatement.
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auyushu 
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| re: The ATL Thread: Offseason Edition (Posted on 10/11/12 at 4:09 pm to SwampDonks)
quote:
In DOB's article today he suggests:
- Trading for Willingham (has two year left on his contract at $7M per)
- Signing Pagan to a 4 or 5 year deal at $9M per.
Thoughts?
I think this sounds like a likely Braves scenario, and I would be fine with it as long it was 3-4 years for Pagan, not 5.
I could also see us just trading for Willingham and Span, though the price might get a little steep there.
But Delgado/Hanson plus a couple other lesser prospects for Willingham would make me happy for LF, and having a 7 mil LF would allow us to extend Prado.
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glb
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| re: The ATL Thread: Offseason Edition (Posted on 10/11/12 at 4:15 pm to auyushu)
Can we go ahead and extend Meds while we're at it?
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Robot Santa
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| re: The ATL Thread: Offseason Edition (Posted on 10/11/12 at 4:31 pm to auyushu)
The problem with Willingham is that he has reverse splits, and we already suck enough against LHP.
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SwampDonks
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| re: The ATL Thread: Offseason Edition (Posted on 10/11/12 at 4:39 pm to Robot Santa)
Had a .920 OPS last year against lefties. .877 against righties. Average is low, but I sure would that OPS.
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Robot Santa
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| re: The ATL Thread: Offseason Edition (Posted on 10/11/12 at 4:51 pm to SwampDonks)
I didn't even look at that. 
I just want us to find someone like Matt Diaz circa 2006-2009. We weren't quite as inept against lefties this year, but we definitely need to find at least one guy who kills them.
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The White Lobster
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| re: The ATL Thread: Offseason Edition (Posted on 10/11/12 at 4:51 pm to SwampDonks)
Don't get me wrong, Willingham would be awesome. Just very expensive.
Also, Nick Swisher looking for Jayson Werth money, $20 million per year, is just hilarious.
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