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Tornado Alley
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re: NFL presented Vilma w/sworn affidavit of GW stating Vilma offered 10k for Favre


Anyone have a link to the affadavit?





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kclsufan
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re: NFL presented Vilma w/sworn affidavit of GW stating Vilma offered 10k for Favre


Declaration

*Here's where I fricked up---sowwee*



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angryslugs
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re: NFL presented Vilma w/sworn affidavit of GW stating Vilma offered 10k for Favre


Fujita meets with him tomorrow. I'm expecting a verbal teabagging of Goodell





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eyeran
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re: NFL presented Vilma w/sworn affidavit of GW stating Vilma offered 10k for Favre


Vilma is fighting his case. Nothing on Fujita. The evidence on Hargrove was wrong.

Have they mentioned why Will Smith was suspended; outside of being a "leader" on the defense?






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kclsufan
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re: NFL presented Vilma w/sworn affidavit of GW stating Vilma offered 10k for Favre


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Have they mentioned why Will Smith was suspended; outside of being a "leader" on the defense?

*Another frick up--damn, I could work for the league office*



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Tornado Alley
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re: NFL presented Vilma w/sworn affidavit of GW stating Vilma offered 10k for Favre


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Actually it's not a notarized, sworn Affidavit, just a declaration, and was NOT given under penalty of perjury, unlike what Fujita, Vitt, etc signed. Depending on the quality of the paper, GW's declaration may or may not make good toilet paper. The fact that it is not a sworn affidavit is HUGE IMO.


Who do we have that also signed a "sworn affadavit?"

It's gotta be our word versus their word. It's only a matter of time before this case jumps into the Courts where, please Jesus, it gets the due process it deserves.

I'm with Terry Bradshaw on BountyGate: either show us the evidence in its entirety or drop the shite and admit you made a mistake.






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Mr Breeze
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re: NFL presented Vilma w/sworn affidavit of GW stating Vilma offered 10k for Favre


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kclsufan


This for the explanation it helps this non-lawyer better understand why Godell is a slime bucket.







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re: NFL presented Vilma w/sworn affidavit of GW stating Vilma offered 10k for Favre


So it's not even a real affidavit? What kind of a shite operation is goodell running?





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Hoodoo Man
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re: NFL presented Vilma w/sworn affidavit of GW stating Vilma offered 10k for Favre


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That affidavit 1st reported by @AdamSchefter. Vilma's atty said he has 8 or 9 affidavits from players, coaches, etc exonerating his client.

Goodell: "Mmmmm, yeah, but GW's affadavit is like 10 times as evidence-y as any of yours. So I have more evidence."






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Tornado Alley
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re: NFL presented Vilma w/sworn affidavit of GW stating Vilma offered 10k for Favre


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Goodell: "Mmmmm, yeah, but GW's affadavit is like 10 times as evidence-y as any of yours. So I have more evidence."


Apparently GW's "affadavit" isn't really an affadavit.






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re: NFL presented Vilma w/sworn affidavit of GW stating Vilma offered 10k for Favre


Roger Goodell is unfit to be a commisioner of a Pop Warner league. I say this seriously, RG should be implicated in fraudulant behaviour and should be looking at some serious prison time. RG is a piece of trash; he is dishonest, and should be dealt with accordingly.

I would never threaten another man's life but this world be better off if Goodell was no longer involved in professional sports.






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Hoodoo Man
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re: NFL presented Vilma w/sworn affidavit of GW stating Vilma offered 10k for Favre


Yeah, but Goodell is speaking in my post, so he'd still refer to it as an affadavit.

Boom, not wrong.






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Tornado Alley
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re: NFL presented Vilma w/sworn affidavit of GW stating Vilma offered 10k for Favre


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Yeah, but Goodell is speaking in my post, so he'd still refer to it as an affadavit.

Boom, not wrong.




Basically, GW's "affadavit" carries the same legal weight as if I sat down, typed an "affadavit" on Microsoft Word, and submitted it to be reviewed by Roger Goodell.






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motorbreath
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re: NFL presented Vilma w/sworn affidavit of GW stating Vilma offered 10k for Favre


yo OP...edit "sworn affidavit" out of that subject line.





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Tornado Alley
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re: NFL presented Vilma w/sworn affidavit of GW stating Vilma offered 10k for Favre


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Roger Goodell is unfit to be a commisioner of a Pop Warner league. I say this seriously, RG should be implicated in fraudulant behaviour and should be looking at some serious prison time. RG is a piece of trash; he is dishonest, and should be dealt with accordingly.

I would never threaten another man's life but this world be better off if Goodell was no longer involved in professional sports.


Patience, my fellow member of the Who Dat Nation.

Once this thing gains traction in the Courts, we will have our justice.






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re: NFL presented Vilma w/sworn affidavit of GW stating Vilma offered 10k for Favre


do ya swear it would?





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kclsufan
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re: NFL presented Vilma w/sworn affidavit of GW stating Vilma offered 10k for Favre


Here's some more on Affidavits vs. Declarations:

LINK

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Affidavits are written documents attached to an oath or some affirmation (i.e., notary public) that the statements in the affidavit are true. Declarations are merely written documents that the author believes to be true, but the statements are given without the author being sworn in by a court officer. Declarations under the penalty of perjury (sometimes referred to as sworn statements) are very similar to affidavits Courts consider both to be legally equivalent, though most court systems and businesses still prefer affidavits over declarations.

Signature Requirements
Affidavits are signed in front of a notary public or commissioner of oaths and require notarization. Declarations must be signed only by the author, though sometimes before a justice of the peace or, at least, legal counsel. U.S. Code 1746 permits an individual to submit as true a declaration under the penalty of perjury.

Wording
Both affidavits and declarations require signatures of the authors. One who submits an affidavit is referred to as a "affiant." One who gives a declaration is called a "declarant." Declarations under the penalty of perjury must be accompanied by a statement in substantially this form: "I declare under penalty of perjury that the foregoing is true and correct," as well as the date on which it was executed and the declarant's signature.

Usage
Affidavits are used for court proceedings and legal documents, such as voter registration. When there is concrete evidence to which someone must swear, affidavits are still used more often than declarations. For patent registration, name changes and evidence testimony in which the the events are not absolutely clear, declarations are readily used.

Critiquing the Affidavit
An affidavit can inconvenience a witness because of the requirement that the witness be sworn and the written document notarized. It also incurs a notary fee, at the minimum. Some courts are turning to declarations under penalty of perjury as substitutes for affidavits because of the efficiency of these statements and their efficacy in forcing people to tell the truth.

The Other Statement
Alongside affidavits and declarations, depositions are often used to take the statements of witnesses. Depositions differ specifically in one way from affidavits: They allow for cross-examination. Depositions are recorded by the court reporter and become written transcripts that can be used in court. The witness is sworn in before making a deposition and is considered under oath, regardless of whether the deposition takes place in a courtroom.


Unless GW also gave a sworn statement "under penalty of perjury" in support of his statement, it's just his unsworn version of events IMO. But I'm not a lawyer and don't play one on TV.






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re: NFL presented Vilma w/sworn affidavit of GW stating Vilma offered 10k for Favre


Twitter is blowing up with reporters saying all of this is sketchy. I fricking love it

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This case raises serious questions re: NFL's conduct in this investigation. The kind of stuff that could put NFL in serious legal trouble.


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@SportsLawGuy Plus, according to Peter Ginsberg, per @AlbertBreer, the NFL has its own documents which contradict Williams' affidavit.


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@sportsJC16 @AlbertBreer Transcript of first court hearing contradicts Williams' declaration.


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@SportsLawGuy @albertbreer that's unreal. What a mess. Roger better cut his losses here because it really gets ugly.


lets kill Goodell's head



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poe tay toes
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re: NFL presented Vilma w/sworn affidavit of GW stating Vilma offered 10k for Favre


the line above the sig states "...I declare under penalty of perjury that the foregoing is true and correct."

just looking for clarification from kclsufan

edit: kclsufan preemptively delivers



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