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re: My New Hawk for 2012 (updated on page 6 with new new hawk)

Posted on 9/17/12 at 4:47 pm to
Posted by Nodust
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Posted on 9/17/12 at 4:47 pm to
I should have go a falcon
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 9/18/12 at 6:42 am to
Indeed. There's still time.
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 9/18/12 at 6:47 am to
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I know falconers have this ancient view of the sport where there must be apprenticeships and whatnot and it's supposed to be secret knowledge and wizardry but that world is gone.


Oh, and no.

The whole apprenticeship thing has nothing to do with secrets and wizardry. Falconer's were perfectly happy not to go through that crap for many decades. But then, the federal government decided that it should be regulated, since birds of prey are protected now. To keep ignorant people from catching, and inadvertently killing hawks, they decided that each new falconer would have to have a sponsor that knows what he's doing. It's that simple. It has nothing to do with secrets and everything to do with education before setting a new falconer loose with a hawk.
Posted by Nodust
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 9/18/12 at 7:03 am to
Have you seen the YouTube videos of the golden eagles wolf hunting in Mongolia?
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 9/18/12 at 8:07 am to
Yep. Those are powerful birds.
Posted by Langston
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 9/18/12 at 8:26 am to
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Have you seen the YouTube videos of the golden eagles wolf hunting in Mongolia?


That is craziness.
Posted by faxis
La.
Member since Oct 2007
7773 posts
Posted on 9/18/12 at 8:49 am to
I like the one's that fling the goats off the cliffs.
And the Mississippi Kite my buddy watched catch a squirrel and drown it.
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 9/18/12 at 9:00 am to
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And the Mississippi Kite my buddy watched catch a squirrel and drown it.



Haha, really? I didn't know they'd take on a squirrel. Would have liked to have seen that. Squirrels can be tough on even a big hawk. They've got a nasty bite.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
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Posted on 9/18/12 at 9:22 am to
No way it was a Ms. Kite.
Posted by Boats n Hose
NOLA
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Posted on 9/18/12 at 9:29 am to
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
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Posted on 9/18/12 at 9:30 am to
in that Bal Chatri trap, why cant the hawk fly off. Just between you and me of course.
Posted by faxis
La.
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Posted on 9/18/12 at 9:45 am to
He's been bird watching for a LONG time and can spot a MS Kite out of the corner of his eye at a distance. This one grabbed the squirrel off a limb right in front of his truck while he was bird watching and landed in the water about thirty yards in front of it. It struggled to make it the short distance to the water with it then just basically held it down till it quit kicking and slowly worked his way back up on land and ate it.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
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Posted on 9/18/12 at 9:49 am to
ok
This post was edited on 9/18/12 at 9:52 am
Posted by Langston
Member since Nov 2010
7685 posts
Posted on 9/18/12 at 10:11 am to
Like a boss
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
22277 posts
Posted on 9/18/12 at 10:17 am to
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in that Bal Chatri trap, why cant the hawk fly off. Just between you and me of course.




Look closely.
This post was edited on 9/18/12 at 10:20 am
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
22277 posts
Posted on 9/18/12 at 10:18 am to
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He's been bird watching for a LONG time and can spot a MS Kite out of the corner of his eye at a distance. This one grabbed the squirrel off a limb right in front of his truck while he was bird watching and landed in the water about thirty yards in front of it. It struggled to make it the short distance to the water with it then just basically held it down till it quit kicking and slowly worked his way back up on land and ate it.







That's awesome. I've heard of some hawks doing this, but I never would have expected it with a Miss. Kite and a squirrel.


Also, not saying it's the case with your friend, I've seen a lot of birdwatchers that think they know what they're looking at, but really can't tell a golden eagle from a kestrel.

I don't know a ton about Miss. Kites, but the bulk of their diet is insects.
This post was edited on 9/18/12 at 10:24 am
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87560 posts
Posted on 9/18/12 at 10:29 am to
quote:

Also, not saying it's the case with your friend, I've seen a lot of birdwatchers that think they know what they're looking at, but really can't tell a golden eagle from a kestrel.


quote:

I don't know a ton about Miss. Kites, but the bulk of their diet is insects.


And what's not is very small reptiles, amphibians and birds. The number one resource for Ms Kites eating squirrels is Tiggerdroppings.com.
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
22277 posts
Posted on 9/18/12 at 10:32 am to
It was likely a cooper's hawk or a red-shouldered hawk.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87560 posts
Posted on 9/18/12 at 10:34 am to
It was a red shouldered.
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
22277 posts
Posted on 9/18/12 at 10:39 am to
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It was a red shouldered.



Maybe, but a cooper's with adult plumage has a lot of gray on it.
This post was edited on 9/18/12 at 5:58 pm
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